>
> Having said that, I think having both "before" and "after" attributes
> will make configuration easier in some cases, but I still think all
> ordering can be expressed just with dependsOf (which is the same as
> "after").


Let's say you're not in control of the pom where the plugin binding is
declared, which you want to add a binding before. Then it is not possible
to add the "dependsOn". One scenario would be a parent pom you're
inheriting from.

/Anders


>
> --
> Regards,
> Igor
>
>
>
>
> On 2014-06-11, 15:44, Robert Scholte wrote:
>
>> The "dependsOn" would only help if this execution should be done *after*
>> another execution. However, I think we also need a solution for the
>> *before* one, unless we say: just manage this by ordering your plugins.
>> Keep in mind: what to do if executions are defined in the parent and you
>> want to execute your plugin before and/or after these inherited
>> executions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robert
>>
>> Op Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:31:23 +0200 schreef Igor Fedorenko
>> <i...@ifedorenko.com>:
>>
>>  Misconfigured execution order should be reported as build failer.
>>>
>>> I don't see how profiles make this problem more complicated. It maybe
>>> little tedious to configure, but I believe it is always possible to add
>>> dependsOn attribute to execution defined elsewhere. So in your example,
>>> the release profile will need to define execution with id of the "final
>>> step" and add dependsOf="id-of-sign-step".
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Igor
>>>
>>> On 2014-06-11, 15:17, Jörg Schaible wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Igor,
>>>>
>>>> Igor Fedorenko wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  More I think about it, less I like the idea of explicit order values. I
>>>>> think this will be rather inconvenient to setup and error prone to
>>>>> maintain.
>>>>>
>>>>> Initial setup will require some tooling to see executions in a
>>>>> particular case with their default ordering values. Not the end of the
>>>>> world, but somebody will have to implement the tooling and the users
>>>>> will know how to find it.
>>>>>
>>>>> More problematic will be ongoing changes to the project itself
>>>>> and its parents. When I need to add/remove executions in a parent, I
>>>>> will have to review all projects that inherit from it to ensure
>>>>> order is
>>>>> still correct. I work on a monster codebase with 600+ modules now, I
>>>>> just don't see how this is workable.
>>>>>
>>>>> If executions are enabled through a profile, especially rarely
>>>>> activated
>>>>> profile, configuring expected order becomes really cumbersome.
>>>>> Think of -Prelease profile, that adds gpg mojo to package phase...
>>>>> good luck troubleshooting why signed jars do not match their gpg
>>>>> signatures during the release.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we need to find a way to make before/after hints work. I don't
>>>>> have a proposal yet, but I wonder, is this not the same problem as
>>>>> ordering modules in the reactor? When there are no dependencies,
>>>>> modules
>>>>> are built in their specified order, but the order changes when there
>>>>> are
>>>>> dependencies.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> please have a look at the latest comments on MNG-3522, because adding
>>>> executions in a profile causes some edge cases, which should be
>>>> defined in
>>>> advance.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jörg
>>>>
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