Sorry, my bad. I meant the binding in the child to be BEFORE the one on the
parent. I can't alter the declaration in the parent in my scenario as I'm
not on control of it.

/Anders (mobile)
Den 12 jun 2014 22:19 skrev "Anders Hammar" <and...@hammar.net>:

>
> Child modules can add configuration to mojo executions configured in
>> parent pom. This isn't pretty, but works.
>>
>
> That's not what I had in mind. I was talking about one plugin binding in
> the parent pom and then a different plugin binding in the child, which we
> want to be after the one in the parent. Then only having "dependsOn"
> wouldn't work in a case where we can't update the parent.
>
>
>> And, to be clear, I am not saying we shouldn't implement before/after
>> configuration, I think it will be convenient to have both. All I am
>> saying only one is truly required.
>
>
> Not in the case I describe (I think).
>
>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Igor
>>
>> On 2014-06-12, 2:23, Anders Hammar wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Having said that, I think having both "before" and "after" attributes
>>>> will make configuration easier in some cases, but I still think all
>>>> ordering can be expressed just with dependsOf (which is the same as
>>>> "after").
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let's say you're not in control of the pom where the plugin binding is
>>> declared, which you want to add a binding before. Then it is not possible
>>> to add the "dependsOn". One scenario would be a parent pom you're
>>> inheriting from.
>>>
>>> /Anders
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Igor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2014-06-11, 15:44, Robert Scholte wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  The "dependsOn" would only help if this execution should be done
>>>>> *after*
>>>>> another execution. However, I think we also need a solution for the
>>>>> *before* one, unless we say: just manage this by ordering your plugins.
>>>>> Keep in mind: what to do if executions are defined in the parent and
>>>>> you
>>>>> want to execute your plugin before and/or after these inherited
>>>>> executions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>> Op Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:31:23 +0200 schreef Igor Fedorenko
>>>>> <i...@ifedorenko.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Misconfigured execution order should be reported as build failer.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see how profiles make this problem more complicated. It maybe
>>>>>> little tedious to configure, but I believe it is always possible to
>>>>>> add
>>>>>> dependsOn attribute to execution defined elsewhere. So in your
>>>>>> example,
>>>>>> the release profile will need to define execution with id of the
>>>>>> "final
>>>>>> step" and add dependsOf="id-of-sign-step".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Igor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2014-06-11, 15:17, Jörg Schaible wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi Igor,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Igor Fedorenko wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   More I think about it, less I like the idea of explicit order
>>>>>>> values. I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> think this will be rather inconvenient to setup and error prone to
>>>>>>>> maintain.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Initial setup will require some tooling to see executions in a
>>>>>>>> particular case with their default ordering values. Not the end of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> world, but somebody will have to implement the tooling and the users
>>>>>>>> will know how to find it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More problematic will be ongoing changes to the project itself
>>>>>>>> and its parents. When I need to add/remove executions in a parent, I
>>>>>>>> will have to review all projects that inherit from it to ensure
>>>>>>>> order is
>>>>>>>> still correct. I work on a monster codebase with 600+ modules now, I
>>>>>>>> just don't see how this is workable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If executions are enabled through a profile, especially rarely
>>>>>>>> activated
>>>>>>>> profile, configuring expected order becomes really cumbersome.
>>>>>>>> Think of -Prelease profile, that adds gpg mojo to package phase...
>>>>>>>> good luck troubleshooting why signed jars do not match their gpg
>>>>>>>> signatures during the release.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we need to find a way to make before/after hints work. I
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> have a proposal yet, but I wonder, is this not the same problem as
>>>>>>>> ordering modules in the reactor? When there are no dependencies,
>>>>>>>> modules
>>>>>>>> are built in their specified order, but the order changes when there
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> dependencies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> please have a look at the latest comments on MNG-3522, because adding
>>>>>>> executions in a profile causes some edge cases, which should be
>>>>>>> defined in
>>>>>>> advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Jörg
>>>>>>>
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