I'll squash them and merge them as a feature commit for each shortly. On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarba...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi Jason, > > are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's possible to > take a look into it... > > And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in... > > > Kind regards > Karl Heinz > > On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally. But I >> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation. There >> are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter those >> slightly before the final release. >> >> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other bits we >> want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through and find >> all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few ITs that >> depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be looked at as well. >> >> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in small >> fixes. >> >> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote: >> >>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in. So >>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend. >>> >>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <andreas.gud...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to work - >>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters and no >>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-) >>>> >>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with the >>>> change of the VM-argument name. >>>> >>>> >>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <andreas.gud...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge anyway so >>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help. >>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows versions >>>>> with >>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat files >>>>> in >>>>>> the next minor release? >>>>>> >>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME anyway ;-). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar : >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly < >>>>>>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net >>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat scripts >>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are not >>>>>>> based >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no reason >>>>> to >>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win 9x/Me >>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the System >>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro). >>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /Anders >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7 >>>>>>> requires a >>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1]. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2]. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html >>>>>>>>> [2] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> /Anders >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io >>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian < >>>>>>>> andreas.gud...@gmail.com <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch >>>>>>> should >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>> translatable. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <i...@ifedorenko.com >>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the >>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory that >>>>>>>>> contains >>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true" >>>>>>> multi-module >>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file is >>>>>>>> present >>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use its >>>>>>>> content >>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS >>>>>>>> environment >>>>>>>>>>>>> variable. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar >>>>>>> change >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h= >>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits his >>>>>>>>>> solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only? Knowing this would help people determine what >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> level >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patr...@oracle.com <javascript:;> >>>>>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300 Office: +1.972.963.2872 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA Mobile: +1.469.556.9450 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:ja...@takari.io <javascript:;> >>>>>>> <javascript:;>] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier < >>>>>>>> aherit...@gmail.com <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0 >>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few others I'm >>>>>>>> far >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no time for >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why >>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767 >>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is everything >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a step >>>>>>>>>>> forward. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific >>>>>>> requirements >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs 8gb to >>>>>>> run >>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation they >>>>>>> run >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> build >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it out and >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> works. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there isn't a >>>>>>>>> single >>>>>>>>>>> Maven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same capabilities or >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the feature for >>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know Windows, >>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about gradual >>>>>>>>>>> improvement. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users that >>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>> help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs output >>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the windows >>>>>>>>>> support >>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not being >>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI >>>>>>>> working >>>>>>>>>>> fine on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt < >>>>>>>> m...@talios.com <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a 3.3.0 >>>>>>>>>> instead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : >>>>>>> aheritier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete >>>>>>>> examples. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper >>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No >>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by >>>>>>>>> looking >>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more examples >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>> look at, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving >>>>>>>> Frameworks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> For >>>>>>>>>>> additional >>>>>>>>>>>>>> commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org <javascript:;> >>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses! Difficult >>>>>>>> maybe, >>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything impossible. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sent from my phone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Jason >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ... >>>>> >>>>> -- Shakespeare >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> Jason van Zyl >>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be. >>> >>> -- Shakespeare >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Jason van Zyl >> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> http://twitter.com/takari_io >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> We know what we are, but know not what we may be. >> >> -- Shakespeare > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > Thanks, Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- Jason van Zyl Founder, Takari and Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http://twitter.com/takari_io --------------------------------------------------------- We know what we are, but know not what we may be. -- Shakespeare --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
