On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <[email protected]> wrote:
> I can handle that, but not before the weekend. > > Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release? > No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge anyway so take your time. Happy to have the help. > Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows versions with > 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat files in > the next minor release? > > I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME anyway ;-). > > > Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar : > >> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly < >> [email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote: >> >>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <[email protected] >> <javascript:;>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat scripts >> is >>>> to >>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are not >> based >>>> on >>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME). >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no reason to >>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on. >>> >>> >>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win 9x/Me >>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter >> >> >> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the System >> Requirements (both on-line and in distro). >> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes. >> >> /Anders >> >> >> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7 >> requires a >>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1]. >>>> >>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements. >>>> >>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2]. >>>> >>>> [1] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html >>>> [2] >>>> >>>> >>> >> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.html >>>> >>>> /Anders >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <[email protected] >> <javascript:;> >>> <javascript:;> >>>>> : >>>>> >>>>>> Awesome, thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian < >>> [email protected] <javascript:;> >>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch >> should >>> be >>>>>>> translatable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andreas >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <[email protected] >> <javascript:;> >>>> <javascript:;>>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the >>> changes >>>>> was >>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory that >>>> contains >>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true" >> multi-module >>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file is >>> present >>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use its >>> content >>>>> as >>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS >>> environment >>>>>>>> variable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar >> change >>>> to >>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [1] >>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h= >>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Igor >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits his >>>>> solution >>>>>>>>> to Unix-only? Knowing this would help people determine what >> the >>>>> level >>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <[email protected] <javascript:;> >> <javascript:;>> >>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation >>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300 Office: +1.972.963.2872 >>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA Mobile: +1.469.556.9450 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server >>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston >>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done >>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/ >>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[email protected] <javascript:;> >> <javascript:;>] >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM >>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier < >>> [email protected] <javascript:;> >>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0 >> with >>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few others I'm >>> far >>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no time for >>> it >>>>> but >>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why >> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767 >>>> was >>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is everything >>> or >>>>>>>>>> nothing. >>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a step >>>>>> forward. >>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific >> requirements >>>> it >>>>>> will >>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs 8gb to >> run >>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation they >> run >>>> the >>>>>> build >>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it out and >>> it >>>>>> works. >>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there isn't a >>>> single >>>>>> Maven >>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same capabilities or >>> we >>>>>> can't >>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the feature for >>>> going >>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know Windows, >> don't >>>>> want >>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about gradual >>>>>> improvement. >>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users that >> can >>>>> help. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs output >>> was >>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the windows >>>>> support >>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not being >> able >>>> the >>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI >>> working >>>>>> fine on >>>>>>>>> Windows for years. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt < >>> [email protected] <javascript:;> >>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a 3.3.0 >>>>> instead >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced.... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net >>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt >>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios >>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier >>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net >>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : >> aheritier >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete >>> examples. >>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper >>> without >>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No >> one >>>> is >>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by >>>> looking >>>>>> at >>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more examples >>> you >>>>>> look at, >>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving >>> Frameworks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> <javascript:;> >>>> <javascript:;> For >>>>>> additional >>>>>>>>> commands, e-mail: [email protected] <javascript:;> >> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> <javascript:;> >>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> <javascript:;> >>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> <javascript:;> >>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> <javascript:;> >>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jason >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses! Difficult >>> maybe, >>>> or >>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything impossible. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> <javascript:;> >>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> <javascript:;> >>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my phone >>> >> Thanks, Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- Jason van Zyl Founder, Takari and Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http://twitter.com/takari_io --------------------------------------------------------- the course of true love never did run smooth ... -- Shakespeare --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
