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Working on a Jenkinsfile... should work for linux on Java 7 & 8... getting
the Windows builds working will be "fun"... perhaps Arnaud can assist!

On 19 December 2016 at 09:41, Stephen Connolly <
[email protected]> wrote:

> We should probably look at switching to multi-branch / org folders...
>
> I released a set of -beta-1 releases on Friday (due to some scaredy-cats
> not being comfortable with pushing full releases to the update centre on a
> Friday  afternoon before I start a 2 week break! Chickens!)
>
> These releases significantly reduce the impact of org-folders on API
> limits... we should check with infra and see if that will make it into the
> "usable" zone (otherwise we'll need to wait for my 2nd gen improvements...)
>
> Other than that, in the interim we can set up jobs for a "DEV" branch if
> that helps... we need to be keeping master releasable... the current state
> of master does not seem to match that expectation
>
> On Sun 18 Dec 2016 at 23:45, Christian Schulte <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Am 12/18/16 um 10:19 schrieb Hervé BOUTEMY:
>>
>> > you are completely missing my point: simply put, when doing such risky
>> change
>>
>> > (that require Review Then Commit), *please do it on a branch*, not on
>> master
>>
>> > (that you'll later revert to postpone to a future Maven version:
>> tracking
>>
>> > changes on master is a big giant mess lately, with updates and reverts
>> in
>>
>> > every place!)
>>
>>
>>
>> Master is WIP. Working on a branch does not make Jenkins check anything.
>>
>> I can continue to use my machine during Jenkins doing it's job. Running
>>
>> the ITs locally means my machine is unuseable for nearly an hour. If the
>>
>> ITs are running fine locally, it happened way to often that the ITs on
>>
>> Jenkins failed due to other reasons. I do run them locally whenever
>>
>> Jenkins sends out failure notices to reproduce things locally. I am no
>>
>> fan of developers working for weeks on theire own and then trying to
>>
>> integrate their weeks of work all in one go no-one has ever had a chance
>>
>> to follow and comment.
>>
>>
>>
>> > and on "As far as I understand it we want the plugins and core
>>
>> >  extensions to use the same classpath when executed and when build"
>>
>> > You know what? We want also that libraries classpath are consistent
>> when built
>>
>> > and when used as dependencies: nothing specific to plugins and core
>> extensions.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not the author who made that a difference but there is a
>>
>> difference. There is a reason some logic is in place deciding to select
>>
>> a transitive dependency or to ignore it. That's just the way Maven is
>>
>> designed.
>>
>>
>>
>> POM
>>
>> - depdency (always selected, no matter what)
>>
>>   - transitive dependency (selected only if not non-transitive)
>>
>>
>>
>> Dependency
>>
>> - transitive dependency (selected if not non-transitive)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thats what the resolver does when requested to collect dependencies for
>>
>> a POM or for a dependency. I just made two selector implementations
>>
>> behave the same. Some were updated to reflect this difference. Some were
>>
>> not. They are now all behaving the same. Plugins and core extensions
>>
>> were resolved as dependencies. This started to work consistently. That
>>
>> led to MNG-6135. That should be implemented now. I had to update an IT
>>
>> when plugin resolution (as dependency) started to work. I could revert
>>
>> that update since they are now resolved as projects.
>>
>>
>>
>> > Everything is built some time then used.
>>
>> > If there are some unexpected discrepencies, we have an issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> See above. This is how things have been implemented for years. I am not
>>
>> the author.
>>
>>
>>
>> > And updating plugins for Maven own builds to work now won't help Maven
>> users
>>
>> > to update their builds
>>
>> > Notice I use the word "update", not "fix": I don't care if you think
>> that the
>>
>> > required update is a positive fix because everything was buggy for 10
>> years and
>>
>> > you're the guy who is saving us from the bugs we lived with: for normal
>> users,
>>
>> > it worked and you're once again  breaking Maven
>>
>>
>>
>> What is broken? The number of failing ITs is down to one already. How
>>
>> many commits did it take to get the ANSI colors going?
>>
>>
>>
>> mng5771CoreExtensions(CoreExtensionRetrievedFromAMir
>> rorWithBasicAuthentication)
>>
>> FAILURE (3.5 s)
>>
>>
>>
>> I am looking into this one right now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>>
>> Christian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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