Totally disagree on the point. Writing java7 code after 8 makes you feel suffering - because instead of expressive stream based operations and lambdas you write pointless iterators and copy collections. It is purely subjective opinion that lambdas make code less readable - at least there is an absolutely opposite opinion
Thank you Aleks On 2019/10/03 12:47:35, Paul Hammant <p...@hammant.org> wrote: > Who codes for 18 months before discovering that qa/prod are not compatible, > anymore? Especially if Google ship a use-this-Pom starter. > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:44 PM Elliotte Rusty Harold <elh...@ibiblio.org> > wrote: > > > Theoretically that would work. In practice though, every project I've > > seen convert to Java 8 rapidly starts adding lambdas that make the > > code more obfuscated for no good reason and soon introduces hard > > dependencies on Java 8, intentionally or otherwise. At a bare minimum, > > a CI environment that runs Java 7 is required. > > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 8:25 AM Paul Hammant <p...@hammant.org> wrote: > > > > > > Would jdk 8 for maven itself and a target of 7 for the compiler (etc) for > > > maven-using projects be ok? > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:15 PM Elliotte Rusty Harold <elh...@ibiblio.org > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Strong -1 on Java 8 as the minimum version. Google Cloud Platform has > > > > lots of products and customers that still require Java 7. If Maven > > > > requires Java 8, we'd have to stick to the latest of whichever release > > > > does support Java 7 for at least a year and I'm guessing longer. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 8:04 AM Robert Scholte <rfscho...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > TLDR; introduce maven.experimental.buildconsumer and push Java > > > > requirement > > > > > to Java 8 > > > > > > > > > > now that Maven 3.6.2 is out for a couple of weeks, it seems like we > > > > didn't > > > > > face real regressions. > > > > > The only one might be tricky is the issue related to Tycho. > > > > > > > > > > However, I think we're ready to push Maven to the next level. > > > > > > > > > > For those actively reading this list, they should recognize the need > > for > > > > > splitting up the pom as it is on the local system versus the pom > > being > > > > > uploaded. Once we truly control this mechanism we can think of > > > > > improvements on model 5.0.0 and new fileformats. > > > > > > > > > > I've created and implemented MNG-6656[1]. It also contains a zip > > with an > > > > > example (original, patched, README) to understand what's happening. > > > > > > > > > > In order to make this successful, we need IDEs and CI Servers to > > > > > understand and support these changes. The likely need to implement > > one of > > > > > the interfaces[2]. > > > > > The new interface uses Java8 Functions (and especially > > SAXEventFactory is > > > > > way easier to read+maintain with Java 8). I've tried to keep Maven > > Java 7 > > > > > compatible, but that was too hard to do. > > > > > So I'd like to use this opportunity to move Maven forward and start > > > > > requiring Java 8. > > > > > > > > > > There are some other improvements I'd like to add (those messages > > will > > > > > follow), so this will imply that it will take some time before we do > > a > > > > new > > > > > release. > > > > > > > > > > WDTY, > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-6656 > > > > > [2] https://github.com/apache/maven/compare/MNG-6656?expand=1 > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Elliotte Rusty Harold > > > > elh...@ibiblio.org > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Elliotte Rusty Harold > > elh...@ibiblio.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
