On Wed 30 Oct 2019 at 08:21, Tibor Digana <tibordig...@apache.org> wrote:

> It's the situation when you have maven plugins in repo and it means that
> all custom plugins/deps can be still downloaded as before.
> Nothing exists like this in the world and we are talking about the
> approaches.
>

Cough cough cough

https://github.com/stephenc/docker-git-java8-maven-vim/blob/168b9968deae418ca3fd63c63038e896255c6fe8/Dockerfile#L50

There are issues, but it does shave a bit of time... though we end up
adding our common dependencies into the seed pom so that it is an effective
speed up


>
> I added Karl, Herve and Stephen in CC because we talked about this issue
> in ASF CON and Twitter.
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 6:36 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tibor,
>>
>> It has two issues:
>>
>> 1. It will not be the right plugin versions in 90% of the cases (except
>> demo ;))
>> 2. It will miss all custom plugins
>>
>> Now question is: what happens if you mount your local repo when running
>> docker? It works as expected. Means we could use a custom entrypoint
>> printing a warning banner if it is not done probably instead of incrasing
>> the image size without being sure to reach the original goal.
>>
>> Wdyt?
>>
>> Romain
>>
>> Le mer. 30 oct. 2019 à 02:03, Tibor Digana <tibordig...@apache.org> a
>> écrit :
>>
>> > If you use Docker images with Maven with no mapping of cache to the
>> > volumes, you may notice that Maven downloads the plugins for the build
>> > lifecycle.
>> >
>> > This slows down the build because a lot of artifacts and plugins are
>> > initially downloaded.
>> > This takes 50 seconds which might be even longer than the productive
>> build
>> > itself (compiler, package, ...).
>> >
>> > We discussed this topic with Herve and Karl at the Apache CON 2019 the
>> last
>> > time.
>> >
>> > Sometime the presentations were funny because the audience had to wait a
>> > minute while the console was black where the Maven was downloading the
>> > plugins in the background.
>> > Nobody was sure what happened that time, whether the console hanged or
>> the
>> > Cloud server hanged, or another issue happened with the network.
>> >
>> > I made a test and triggered the default lifecycle on Maven and I
>> realized
>> > that the cache was really very little, cca 12 MB.
>> > So this little cache in the container would save 50 seconds which is the
>> > improvement we are discussing.
>> >
>> > From the use point of view, the user would use a new base image `
>> > 3.6.2-jdk-14-prefetched` which is my idea.
>> >
>> > There are multiple technical solutions (range of plugins, extra pom,
>> > internal Maven plugin versions, etc).
>> >
>> > We understood that the best idea would be to have the image with the
>> cache
>> > in new Docker images produced by Carloss Sanchez.
>> >
>> > We are discussing this topic in [1] but we do not have a consensus on
>> who
>> > will develop the Docker scripts and how.
>> >
>> > We can continue here and we can propose a solution.
>> >
>> > [1] https://github.com/carlossg/docker-maven/issues/130
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Tibor17
>> >
>>
> --
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