first pass of documentation improvement done  in
https://github.com/apache/maven-site/commit/ec73b445adc7012e1384cf1b89af3f0a6f5eee17

please all review and see if anything you read may be mis-interpreted when 
reading fast

I don't know if providing a script to create a staging tree (with binaries + 
source, which is another topic that in the past was failed at copy/pasting) 
would help
or simply a template svn subtree to copy to init a staging...
we need something simple, that is obvious to work with (and not a new tedious 
additional tool)

Regards,

Hervé

Le vendredi 26 mars 2021, 10:44:41 CET Robert Scholte a écrit :
> Looks like I misinterpreted the instructions of maven-core-release[1]
> Will rewrite it to prevent this the next time.
> 
> sorry about that,
> Robert
> 
> [1] https://maven.apache.org/developers/release/maven-core-release.html
> 
> On 26-3-2021 09:45:59, Olivier Lamy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Fixed this has been removed from archive area
> 
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 5:29 pm, Maxim Solodovnik
> 
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 14:24, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> > > And that's expected as archive.apache.org keeps all releases that are
> > 
> > not
> > 
> > > current, i.e. those that have been removed from dist.apache.org.
> > 
> > Actually release is added to the archive as soon as the release is
> > uploaded (not removed :)
> > 
> > > The release process should really be fixed and the commit to
> > 
> > dist.apache.org
> > 
> > > should really happen after the vote.
> > > I suggest sending an email to infra to see if the binaries can be
> > > removed
> > > from archive.apache.org.
> > > 
> > > In any case, I'm -0 on this release. I'm also concerned about the leap
> > 
> > in
> > 
> > > the release numbering. You need to balance how many people will wonder
> > 
> > why
> > 
> > > 3.7.0 can not be found vs the number of people who were expecting a
> > 
> > feature
> > 
> > > in 3.7.0 (which they would expect to be in 3.8.0 anyway). A failed
> > 
> > attempt
> > 
> > > should not lead to a missing release number either, as the failure stays
> > 
> > in
> > 
> > > the dev community, so I don't think the larger user audience cares about
> > > those...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Le ven. 26 mars 2021 à 08:17, Maxim Solodovnik a
> > > 
> > > écrit :
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > Moving might not do what is expected
> > > > the binaries are already in
> > > > http://archive.apache.org/dist/maven/maven-3/3.8.0/
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 11:25, Olivier Lamy wrote:
> > > > > Yes you're right that shouldn't be there as this has been mirrored
> > 
> > in all
> > 
> > > > > Apache mirrors as a real release...
> > > > > 
> > > > > The procedure
> > > > > http://maven.apache.org/developers/release/maven-core-release.html
> > 
> > says:
> > > > > "
> > > > > 
> > > > > For non-alpha/beta releases, release candidates are produced before
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > > > > actual release.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Checkout https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3 then
> > > > 
> > > > create
> > > > 
> > > > > the necessary directory tree.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "
> > > > > 
> > > > > @Robert I moved the binaries. As the vote is not finished they
> > 
> > shouldn;t
> > 
> > > > be
> > > > 
> > > > > in the official Apache release download area
> > > > > 
> > > > > svn mv
> > 
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven-3/3.8.0
> > 
> > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/maven/maven-3/
> > > > > 
> > > > > Committing transaction...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Committed revision 46741.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 13:18, Mark Derricutt
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > I notice in the vote email we have mentioned:
> > dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven–3/3.8.0/binaries/apache-mav
> > en–3.8.0-bin.zip> 
> > > > <
> > 
> > http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/bina
> > ries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip> 
> > > > > > <
> > 
> > http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/bina
> > ries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip> 
> > > > > > <
> > 
> > http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/maven/maven%E2%80%933/3.8.0/bina
> > ries/apache-maven%E2%80%933.8.0-bin.zip> 
> > > > > > which doesn’t really highlight anywhere that this is a
> > > > 
> > > > staging/unreleased
> > > > 
> > > > > > version.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Tho changing that probably won’t change too much here.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > *ponders*
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: Gary Gregory <
> > 
> > [email protected]>
> > 
> > > > > > Reply: Maven Developers List <
> > > > 
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > 
> > > > > > Date: 26 March 2021 at 2:13:05 PM
> > > > > > To: Maven Developers List <
> > 
> > [email protected]
> > 
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven version 3.8.0
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It's pretty clear to me that the Maven release process is broken
> > 
> > when
> > 
> > > > > > people are getting new versions they think are real and valid when
> > 
> > in
> > 
> > > > fact
> > > > 
> > > > > > it is a release candidate vote in in progress. Gary
> > > > > 
> > > > > --
> > > > > Olivier Lamy
> > > > > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Maxim
> > > > 
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> > > ------------------------
> > > Guillaume Nodet
> > 
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Maxim
> > 
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> 
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