Howdy,

I was chased away from Brew many times with the words "it's not a version
manager" :)

Yes, Brew is a tool that helps you install stuff, but it really focus on
"latest", and does not have a notion of package "version", they solve it
(correct me if I'm wrong), by doing some trickeries around formulas (so
X.0.1 and X.0.2 are actually TWO formulas).

In short, I don\t want to be smartxss, but:
- are you sure Brew is the tool you want to provision Maven?
- Are you aware of SDKMAN (https://sdkman.io/) for example, that is able to
do exactly what you need, out of the box?

But in general, I am completely aligned with Karl, try latest (as you
noticed, soon 3.8.3)

HTH
Tamas



On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 12:41 AM Fred Cooke <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey Karl,
>
> Thank you very much for your response and for all your work over the years!
> :-)
>
> Now that I'm awake and not desperate to go to bed, I found the issue
> reported by someone else, but NOT on maven:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MINVOKER-283
>
> However the comment from Michael Osipov suggests that it probably has been
> identified in Maven and is likely included with 3.8.3 which (awesome to
> hear) is coming out very soon.
>
> Thanks to everyone who jumped on the ticket. I'll add my 2c there in a
> minute - it's already closed (harsh) but a bit of follow up is necessary.
>
> To be clear, I wasn't complaining about Maven, I've been using it since
> 2.0.4 or maybe earlier and have always been a huge fan. It's a hairy beast
> and progress necessitates making calls to break things sometimes. I don't
> know if that's what this is, or if it's just a regression because hairy,
> but either way, it's normal for software to have various issues over
> various versions through its lifetime. The issue is that Brew has a very
> narrow view of "use only the latest" which is never practical. Such
> impractical views are regularly the work of Apple and deciphels thereof but
> you won't find that in Debian where you can get stuff from WAY back IF you
> need it. Same for ubu and I imagine same for most distros. I mean, look at
> maven central, you need something from 2005? No problem. Brew: You need
> something from LAST WEEK - absolutely not! :-D Hilarious.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fred.
>
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 09:11, Karl Heinz Marbaise <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 30.09.21 15:49, Fred Cooke wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We've hit an issue with maven 3.8.2 which a lot of our clients use on
> > macs
> > > through Brew and although brew supports the latest 3.8, 3.5, 3.3, 3.2
> > > versions it does not support 3.8.1 which doesn't have the regression
> and
> > > does not have 3.6 which was also fine for our purposes.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if the issue we've got has been reported (not by me at
> > least)
> > > and I can certainly get that information, but it'd be helpful if
> someone
> > > like Robert of Stephen could chime in on this PR:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/pull/86192 < Put 3.6.3 back
> in
> > > Brew on mac as an option.
> >
> > First It would be very helpful to know about what you are talking? Have
> > you created an JIRA issue for it? Have you checked the JIRA for it if
> > one already exist?
> >
> > Furthermore If someone has an issue with a particular Maven version than
> > use the most recent one of that's not possible go down one
> > version...that's it...
> >
> > Most important here is to report such things. If we don't know anything
> > how could we know and even more important how could we fix it..
> >
> > Another thing is why should one of our devs get into a homebrew parts?
> > Also as Michael already wrote...
> >
> >  > The general approach is that every new version supersedes old
> > version. There is no old minor version support.
> >
> >  > Forget anything before 3.5.4 or even 3.6.3. If 3.8.3 proves to be
> > regression-free, forget 3.6.3 as
> >
> > Always use the most recent one...
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Karl Heinz Marbaise
> >
> > >
> > > I don't mind if in support or against my comments and intent, just keen
> > to
> > > see a resolution for ~50 developers :-D
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Fred (3am, off to bed!)
> > >
> >
>

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