Hi,

I've created a few PRs for removing some reports from Maven site. [1]

I think that such reports do not bring any useful information for project
documentations, but have influence to site build time.

[1] https://github.com/apache/maven-parent/pulls


pt., 25 lut 2022 o 03:11 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> napisał(a):

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 07:57, Slawomir Jaranowski <s.jaranow...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> > In next version of Maven parent
> >  - detectLinks from javadoc configurations was removed, so javadoc will
> not
> > download remote resource, it was fails many times in this case
> >  - findbugs was removed - it also took a lot of time
> >
> > My proposition is to remove from reports:
> >   - surefire
> >   - checkstyle
> >   - pmd
> >   - taglist
> >   - invoker
> >   and finally - jxr
> >
> > chekstyle is used during build,
> > if we want to use pmd should be included in build
> > any other tests result are reported on jenkins for each build, I don't
> see
> > benefit of such in documentations
> >
>
> I tend to agree to remove reports which are already part of the build and
> fail the build in case of issues (such checkstyle, surefire, invoker).
> Because at the end reports are just empty and finally do not provide much
> more interesting information.
> What about having those reports in Jenkins (for at least only one
> combination).
> But which one? Jenkins reporting can support a lot of tools
>
> https://github.com/jenkinsci/analysis-model/blob/master/SUPPORTED-FORMATS.md
> I feel sometimes some reports are generating some false negative warnings,
> But at least it will be here if someone wants to have a look but would not
> fail a normal build and not make extra noise
> Not sure which tools could be interesting? spotbugs, compiler warnings,
> what else?
>
>
>
> >
> > and of course I can change GH action to build site only on one node
> >
>
> agree on that maybe for only 1 combination such linux/jdk 1.8/maven last
> version?
>
>
> >
> > czw., 24 lut 2022 o 22:49 Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net>
> > napisał(a):
> >
> > > Olivier,
> > >
> > > please remove all the Jenkins checks from all of the Maven builds you
> > added
> > > without asking anyone about adding it.
> > > The release manager should ensure beforehand it is all ok, if not, try
> to
> > > fix it, if the issue is bigger, still can decide to rollback the
> change.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > T
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:14 PM Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Building javadoc is slow and very fragile (fetches remote resources,
> > > chews
> > > > on stuff etc).
> > > > Why not have a savvy release manager ensuring it is building, and
> > calling
> > > > out PR authors to fix it?
> > > > The Worst can happen is rel mgr rollback the chnge if the PR author
> is
> > > > unresponsive.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:01 PM Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Please read what I say. I'm just mentioning javadoc as contributors
> > > >> and committers can fail the build with bad javadoc but we will not
> see
> > > it.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 06:47, Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Building everything for each commit is insane.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Also, I find a release mgr that does NOT check is site building
> > > >> beforehand
> > > >> > release as sloppy.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hence, building everything on each commit just to suit sloppy
> > release
> > > >> mgrs
> > > >> > is insane IMHO.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > My 5 cents.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > T
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 9:30 PM Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Sounds good.
> > > >> > >  But who has never released something and having javadoc failing
> > in
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > middle of the release or the site generation failing once tag
> done
> > > and
> > > >> > > artifacts staged… I find this a pain 😀
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Maybe only testing javadoc works at least ?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Btw I agree some reports could be removed
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 6:24 am, <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > and reporting profile was done for this:
> > > >> > > > - without reporting profile, just light site generation
> > > >> > > > - with reporting profile, full documentation site
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > disabling reporting profile for CI should do the job
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > ----- Mail original -----
> > > >> > > > De: "herve boutemy" <herve.bout...@free.fr>
> > > >> > > > À: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org>
> > > >> > > > Envoyé: Jeudi 24 Février 2022 21:21:45
> > > >> > > > Objet: Re: Review of used reports for Maven project sites.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > done on GH and Jenkins, then on each commit?
> > > >> > > > we're heating oceans for nothing
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > IMHO, we need to differentiate CI vs release documentation: CI
> > > >> should
> > > >> > be
> > > >> > > > much lighter than release
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > ----- Mail original -----
> > > >> > > > De: "Slawomir Jaranowski" <s.jaranow...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > > À: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org>
> > > >> > > > Envoyé: Jeudi 24 Février 2022 20:53:49
> > > >> > > > Objet: Re: Review of used reports for Maven project sites.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Yes is done after release but also on jenkins for plugins and
> on
> > > GH
> > > >> > > builds
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > czw., 24 lut 2022 o 20:43 <herve.bout...@free.fr> napisał(a):
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > full site building with reports enabled (through reporting
> > > >> profile)
> > > >> > is
> > > >> > > > > just done after release, isn't it?
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > ----- Mail original -----
> > > >> > > > > De: "Slawomir Jaranowski" <s.jaranow...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > > > À: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org>
> > > >> > > > > Envoyé: Jeudi 24 Février 2022 20:24:56
> > > >> > > > > Objet: Review of used reports for Maven project sites.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Hi,
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Building the Maven site takes a long time for our projects.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Before releasing the next version of maven-parent, I have a
> > > >> proposal
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > > > > review used Maven site reports.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > So
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >  - without reporting profile, standard
> > > >> > > maven-project-info-reports-plugin
> > > >> > > > -
> > > >> > > > > build very quick - no problems
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > - with reporting profile:
> > > >> > > > >   - surefire   -  require test phase - can have influence on
> > > build
> > > >> > time
> > > >> > > > >   - checkstyle
> > > >> > > > >   - pmd
> > > >> > > > >   - jxr - needed by other reports
> > > >> > > > >   - taglist
> > > >> > > > >   - javadoc - require generate-sources
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > - for plugins and extensions additional invoker report is
> > added.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > I starting to think what of benefit we have, who is looking
> at
> > > >> > reports
> > > >> > > > > like: surefire, checkstyle, pmd, taglist
> > > >> > > > > Maybe they are redundant - tests, checkstyle verification
> > simply
> > > >> must
> > > >> > > > pass
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > --
> > > >> > > > > Sławomir Jaranowski
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >>
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