Sorry to be glib. I apologize. But I did have a point. The attitude that
Guillaume has about my emacs (which has been updated more recently than either
the JVM or your IDE) is exactly the same attitude I face when I try to get new
users to use Maven. In the case of Maven, it is use of XML for the pom, in the
case of emacs its all the weird key bindings (which you actually already know
because of bash). I hope this actually helps.
Hunter
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 04:42:10 PM PDT, Hunter C Payne
<hunterpayne2...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
Ok, sonny...go back to using software I wrote to do your development.
Hunter
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 03:47:56 PM PDT, Guillaume Nodet
<gno...@apache.org> wrote:
Sounds like the only really plausible answer ! So if they can stay on a
runtime which is 10 years old, an editor which has been released nearly 38
years ago (well, not the latest version of course, but still...), why can't
they stay on maven 3.9 which is a few months old ?
My proposal was to support critical bug fixes (i.e. security or no
work-around, but that can always be discussed) on the latest branches
supporting LTS JDK for some time..., so 3.x for JDK 8, 4.x for JDK 17 and
maybe 5.x for JDK 21 or 24 or whatever the LTS jdk would be at that time.
That would be a change from what has been done for the past 15 years, as
looking at history, I think 2.0.11 was the only micro version ever released
after the next minor version.
Guillaume
Le mar. 6 juin 2023 à 23:05, Hunter C Payne
<hunterpayne2...@yahoo.com.invalid> a écrit :
> emacs
> Hunter
>
> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 11:19:43 AM PDT, Guillaume Nodet <
> gno...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> One question for people that want JDK 8 support. What IDE do they use to
> develop ? Because none of the actual IDE is running JDK 8, though they can
> be used by JDK 8, just like maven with toolchains.
> So really, the argument does not really stand, but for the very minority of
> devs still using emacs/vim.
> It really comes down to ease of use (i.e. not having to use --release flag
> or to setup a toolchain) vs staying on JDK for 10 more years.
>
> Le mar. 6 juin 2023 à 18:32, Michael Osipov <micha...@apache.org> a écrit
> :
>
> > Am 2023-06-06 um 07:42 schrieb Hervé Boutemy:
> > > it's not about *one not wanting* to upgrade (anybody can use JDK 17 if
> > they want currently)
> > >
> > > it's about *one forcing everybody else* to upgrade (and enter the
> > toolchain setup question)
> >
> > EXACTLY!
> >
> >
>
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> Guillaume Nodet
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