Thanks for sharing!

On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 11:23 PM Brian Fox <bri...@infinity.nu> wrote:

> Hi everyone. I haven't caught up on this thread but Tamas pinged me to get
> some usage data from Central. Attached are the Maven versions and JDK
> Version counts as reported by User Agent by distinct IP for the last 30
> days:
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> On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 4:15 PM Hunter C Payne
> <hunterpayne2...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>  I also want to stress that we care about what maven supports far more
>> than what it requires to build.  If it needs JDK 17 to build but the jars
>> are compliant with Java 8, that's fine with me.
>>
>> Hunter
>>
>>     On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 12:47:33 PM PST, Romain
>> Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Hmm, not sure im ready for a 200M vanilla build tool even if it would
>> have
>> been ok legally...
>>
>> Le mer. 21 févr. 2024 à 21:41, Hunter C Payne
>> <hunterpayne2...@yahoo.com.invalid> a écrit :
>>
>> >  I might be wrong but I understood that shipping the JRE/JVM required a
>> > license and this is why most people don't ship with a JVM bundled.  But
>> > perhaps that has changed since the Oracle v Google/Alphabet trial.
>> > Hunter
>> >
>> >    On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 12:00:54 PM PST, Benjamin Marwell
>> <
>> > bmarw...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >  FWIW, bazel changed its runtime requirement to Java 21.
>> > But they are shipping their own Java Runtime, so their users won't
>> notice.
>> > [1]
>> >
>> > I think they are the first build tool to do that.
>> >
>> > I say this as a FYI fact only, not implying anything.
>> > Make of it what you want.
>> >
>> > - Ben
>> >
>> > Am Di., 20. Feb. 2024 um 21:50 Uhr schrieb Tamás Cservenák
>> > <ta...@cservenak.net>:
>> > >
>> > > Howdy,
>> > >
>> > > I intentionally used "Maven" here, and not "Maven 4" as I am sure the
>> > > majority of Maven users do not run Maven on the same Java version they
>> > > target with their build. We do not do that either.
>> > >
>> > > Some snippets from Herve (who is the ONLY one doing reproducible
>> checks,
>> > > kudos for that) votes:
>> > >
>> > > Sun, Feb 18, 2024, 9:38 AM
>> > > [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Shade Plugin version 3.5.2
>> > > Reproducible Build ok: reference build done with JDK 11 on *nix
>> > >
>> > > Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 5:06 AM
>> > > [VOTE] Release Apache Maven JLink Plugin version 3.2.0
>> > > Reproducible Builds ok: reference build done on *nix with JDK 21 and
>> > umask
>> > > 022
>> > >
>> > > Mon, Jan 8, 2024, 8:29 AM
>> > > [VOTE] Release Maven Plugin Tools version 3.11.0
>> > > Reproducible Builds ok: reference build done with JDK 8 on Windows
>> with
>> > > umask
>> > >
>> > > Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 8:59 AM
>> > > [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Compiler Plugin version 3.12.0
>> > > Reproducible Builds ok: reference build done on *nix with JDK 21 and
>> > umask
>> > > 022
>> > >
>> > > Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 8:59 AM
>> > > [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Compiler Plugin version 3.12.0
>> > > Reproducible Builds ok: reference build done on *nix with JDK 21 and
>> > umask
>> > > 022
>> > >
>> > > Wed, Nov 29, 2023, 8:16 AM
>> > > [VOTE] Apache Maven Build Cache Extension 1.1.0
>> > > Reproducible Build ok: reference build done on *nix with JDK 11
>> > >
>> > > Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 5:17 PM
>> > > [VOTE] Release Maven Resolver 1.9.17
>> > > Reproducible Build ok: reference build done with JDK 21 on *nix with
>> > umask
>> > > 022
>> > >
>> > > Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 4:34 PM
>> > > VOTE] Apache Maven 4.0.0-alpha-8 release
>> > > Reproducible Build ok: reference build done with JDK 21 on *nix with
>> > umask
>> > > 022
>> > >
>> > > Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 9:11 AM
>> > > [VOTE] Release Apache Maven 3.9.5
>> > > Reproducible not fully ok: reference build done with JDK 17 on *nix
>> and
>> > > umask 022
>> > >
>> > > ====
>> > >
>> > > This CLEARLY shows the tendency:
>> > > - Michael does releases on Java 8 (on windows!), he is a known
>> "aligner"
>> > > and windows person :)
>> > > - Olivier used the "minimum" required Java version (for build cache).
>> > > - Unsure why Herve used Java 11 for the Shade plugin... I mean, he
>> could
>> > > use 21 but also 8, but he shot for 11 that was EOL at the moment of
>> > release.
>> > > - The rest is 21.
>> > >
>> > > ====
>> > >
>> > > So, the question for those refusing anything other than Java 8 to
>> _run_
>> > > Maven (or to revert: for those refusing to run Maven on "latest LTS",
>> > that
>> > > is currently 21):
>> > > WHY?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > > T
>> >
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