Dear all,
the Eclipse Sisu project has not been engaging in our regular EDP processes
regarding releases. Seeing that the project is overdue for a review, I've
scheduled the following:
https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipsefdn/emo-team/emo/-/issues/740
Please subscribe to the issue to stay up-to-date regarding the EMO feedback
that will be provided in the upcoming days.
Kind regards,
Maria Teresa Delgado

On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 1:58 AM Christoph Läubrich <m...@laeubi-soft.de>
wrote:

> Hi Tamás,
>
> According to [1] there is no planned release, I also see now milestones
> [2] or something planned here [3], maybe it would help to just create a
> Github Milestone and assign issues/prs to it so people can see how
> far/close a possible release currently is?
>
> Beside that, everything is fine from my side, I just wanted to jump in
> and help in case there is a problem with the project unable to actually
> do a release, if the (sisu) mailinglist is not appropriate to ask
> questions maybe you want to enable github discussion we made some good
> experience with that in the eclipse-platform and related projects.
>
> best
> Christoph
>
> [1] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/governance
> [2] https://github.com/eclipse/sisu.plexus/milestones
> [3] https://github.com/eclipse/sisu.plexus/releases
>
>
> Am 08.05.24 um 09:04 schrieb Tamás Cservenák:
> > Howdy,
> >
> > Olivier, I find this quite interesting, that according to you doing an
> > Eclipse release (even M one) is "just push a few buttons and run
> > something for a minute".
> > On the other hand, on Slack you educate Christoph about the "Apache way".
> > Please calm down and remain respectful.
> >
> > Your PR [1] has been reviewed by Sisu project lead (Stuart McCulloch) and
> > is merged. All is fine.
> >
> > The problem is in the "release must happen RIGHT NOW" stance of yours
> (for
> > whatever reason).
> > No Sisu committer will or can throw away everything they currently do (or
> > planned to do), just to make Sisu release happen, as you ask for it.
> > We are doing our best, and release for sure will happen soonish, as there
> > are several merged, but also several ongoing changes to be done yet (see
> > open PRs).
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/eclipse/sisu.plexus/pull/52
> >
> > On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 7:55 AM Christoph Läubrich <m...@laeubi-soft.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Olivier,
> >>
> >> I'm not 100% sure about the sisu[1] problem at Eclipse BUT usually there
> >> is no need for a vote or similar but from tiem to time there is a
> >> release or progress review. If I look here
> >> https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/who you have 100%
> >> commits over the last three month, so it would make sense that @Konrad
> >> Windszus or @cstamas simply start a committer vote to make you a
> >> committer of the project, after that I would (if Stuart is non
> >> responsive anymore) start a Project Lead election for either any of you,
> >> at that point you then can do what ever is required (even though any
> >> committer can technically perform a release or ask for a release review
> >> some actions might require a Project Lead approval e.g. pushing to
> >> central), if you have any questions regarding Eclipse process you can
> >> ask the Eclipse EMO (e...@eclipse.org added as CC).
> >>
> >> If you need any help I can offer to give some help from my experience in
> >> other Eclipse Projects, at a first glance looking at the release page[1]
> >> a release review seems overdue but I'm not an expert on this specific
> >> topic, it just wont hurt to schedule one just to be sure.
> >>
> >> HTH
> >> Christoph
> >>
> >> [1] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu
> >> [2] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/governance
> >>
> >> Am 07.05.24 um 23:23 schrieb Olivier Lamy:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> Sure but as a long-term developer, I cannot release this plexus part
> >> anymore.
> >>> It used to be very easy to release this major part of the system (but
> >>> for some reason this has been moved somewhere else. not something to
> >>> discuss again, of course)
> >>> I have been asking sisu dev mailing list for a release, but no answer
> >> yet.
> >>> I have been looking at this project mailing list archive.
> >>> There is an email about a possible process
> >>> (https://www.eclipse.org/lists/sisu-dev/msg00116.html), but as far as
> >>> I can see, this 0.9.0.M2 release has been done without any voting
> >>> process etc.
> >>> So releasing looks to be only a matter of having a few minutes to run
> >>> m-release-p and publish. (being contributor to another Eclipse
> >>> project, I cannot see anything with vote mandatory).
> >>>
> >>> If it's easier we can certainly move this sisu plexus project back to
> >>> where it was few years ago under the groupId org.codehaus.plexus and
> >>> releasing will not be a problem for maven contributors.
> >>>
> >>> regards
> >>> Olivier
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 20:16, Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Btw, I feel really strange to have to explain to a long term maven
> >>>> contributor, that he can do maven release whenever he feels so....
> >>>>
> >>>> T
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 11:59 AM Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Howdy,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think you reversed the question... 3.9.7 was done and ready to go
> >> until
> >>>>> you stepped in.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> IMHO the real question is:
> >>>>> Is your issue (using overloaded methods in mojo config) really so
> >> urgent
> >>>>> to halt 3.9.7 release?
> >>>>> What is the problem with doing 3.9.8 maybe even two weeks later?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> T
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 7:45 AM Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Is 3.9.7 really so urgent?
> >>>>>> Maybe we can wait a couple of days.
> >>>>>> I have been asking the sisu dev mailing list for a release.
> >>>>>> This should not be too long.
> >>>>>> I can see you are in the committers list
> >>>>>> (https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.sisu/who) with
> >>>>>> Konrad so maybe you can help to expedite this?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> regards
> >>>>>> Olivier
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, 5 May 2024 at 21:05, Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Howdy,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Maven 3.9.7 was ready to be released 3 days ago and contains
> multiple
> >>>>>> fixes
> >>>>>>> contributed by non committers.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> MNG-8116 was added 2 days ago. I really see no reason to be
> blocked,
> >> to
> >>>>>>> "stop and wait" for a bugfix, as we can always spin 3.9.8.
> >>>>>>> Releases are cheap, and can be done whenever we (anyone of us)
> feels
> >>>>>> right
> >>>>>>> to do so...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 3.9.7 is not the "last Maven 3.9.x" or anything like that, to have
> a
> >>>>>> "now
> >>>>>>> or never" situation. Just spin 3.9.8 whenever you think is ready.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My 5 cents
> >>>>>>> T
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 2:14 AM Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>>> Can we please integrate
> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-8116
> >>>>>>>> The fix is ready and really simple.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>>> Olivier
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 at 07:12, Tamás Cservenák <
> ta...@cservenak.net>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Howdy,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This is just a short newsflash about upcoming planned releases
> >>>>>> related to
> >>>>>>>>> Maven.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Recently we got a huge spike in plugin releases, with various
> fixes
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> improvements. I will not enumerate all of them here, just use
> `mvn
> >>>>>>>>> versions:display-plugin-updates` to pick them up ;)
> >>>>>>>>> (and more plugins to come).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> What I do want to share is about our upcoming Maven releases...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Maven 3.9.7 is nearing (read: coming soon), and will have an
> >>>>>> important
> >>>>>>>>> Resolver update and other important fixes. Most importantly, the
> >>>>>>>> file-locks
> >>>>>>>>> are getting nice improvement (feedback VERY welcome).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Maven 3.9.7 issues:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MNG%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%203.9.7
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Resolver 1.9.19 issues (mostly bug fixes):
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MRESOLVER%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%201.9.19
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> At the same time, we plan to release Maven Daemon (m39) as well,
> to
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>> aligned with Maven 3,9,7: with many bug fixes and
> >>>>>> improvements/alignments
> >>>>>>>>> to "how Maven 3 behave". Our goal is to make the two (mvn and
> mvnd)
> >>>>>>>>> interchangeable on workstations.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Next, Maven 4 is turning beta, so the next release will be beta1!
> >>>>>> And
> >>>>>>>>> again, same thing for Maven Damon (m40), we will have a release
> >>>>>> that will
> >>>>>>>>> include Maven 4 beta-1.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Maven 4 beta-1
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MNG%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%204.0.0-beta-1
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Resolver 2.0.0 (currently alpha-11, will become beta after Maven4
> >>>>>> beta-1
> >>>>>>>>> release):
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20MRESOLVER%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.0.0-alpha-11
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Keep your eyes on our upcoming releases,
> >>>>>>>>> and have fun!
> >>>>>>>>> - The Apache Maven team
> >>>>>>>>
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