+0 I agree that it would be a good practice to clean up, but in the end it
is not a big deal to have people listed

Thanks for raising the discussion,  having these conversations about the
community itself is always a great opportunity for the project to grow and
become stronger

Some comments inline below

Il giorno gio 24 ott 2024 alle ore 07:51 Romain Manni-Bucau <
rmannibu...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> +-0 but maybe start to setup a routine which will generate a "team2.html"
> page with a column "latest contribution" (mail or commit or review?) and
> from there see how it looks like and then spawn again the emeritus topic?
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> Le jeu. 24 oct. 2024 à 00:05, Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
> > +1
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 6:17 PM Tamás Cservenák <ta...@cservenak.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Howdy,
> > >
> > > I would like to propose a project policy change (followed by
> > > implementation) regarding "emeritus" status of PMCs and members.
> > >
> > > Proposal:
> > > 1) IF a PMC member is inactive for 24 months (did NOT participate in
> > > any VOTE [by casting binding vote] OR did not create any commit that
> > > ended up in the project), he should be automatically moved to
> > > "emeritus PMC" status.
> > > 2) IF a committer is inactive for 24 months (did NOT participate in
> > > any VOTE [by casting vote] OR did not create and/or review any commit
> > > that ended up in the project), he should be automatically moved to
> > > "emeritus committer" status.
> > >
> > > Reasoning:
> > > Currently if interested party checks ASF report about Maven project on
> > >  https://projects.apache.org/committee.html?maven , the presented data
> > > is skewed, if not even false, about "who" (and more importantly "how
> > > many") user is working on a project. This can lead to some unpleasant
> > > misunderstandings as well (from "why is my PR not reviewed yet" to
> > > many others).


Maybe this is not a big deal ?

We must help the contributors to learn how to interact with the
community and especially the mailing list to start a discussion about their
patch.
This is the right way for them to be more involved in the community, and
finally become committers (== "responsible for" for community and the
project)


> Moreover, this same (wrong) number may in fact lessen
> > > potential contributors, make them turn away and choose another, less
> > > supported project to join. Finally, I think we should shrink the
> > > circle of "admin" powered users to those we are almost certain are
> > > around us and involved.


I don't think that this is a real problem. For these reasons:
- releases must be approved by a quorum of PMC members, there is no way
that someone releases something to the public without the consensus of the
community
- we receive notifications for each PR and commit: if someone does any
harm...we will know, and you can always "git revert" or "git push --force"


> Project already has "emeritus" roles for both,
>

As said, I am +0 to this. I have seen in the past in other places that
people explicitly ask to move to Emeritus by themself


My two cents
Enrico


> > > PMCs and committers AFAIK (correct me if I am wrong).
> > >
> > > WDYT?
> > >
> > > Thanks
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