On 30 Aug 06, at 6:51 AM 30 Aug 06, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:

Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
Brett Porter wrote:
-1

(snapshots are fine).

The ability to publish half-baked, undocumented releases (which is what they are if they can't garner votes to get out of the sandbox) allows us to get lazy meaning full releases don't arrive and we've suffered enough for it already.
Ok, but what's the upgrade path, in your opinion?

And, following up my own question: In particular, considering the *extremely* nasty release policy, which the Maven project does have for plugins?

Examples:

- maven-jar-plugin hasn't seen a release in eight months, although the
  plugin is extremely important and has had very nasty bugs

This would change with access for you to the new sandbox area here. You could copy in the sources of the JAR plugin and work away, you could keep merging from trunk until we one of us had time to check it. With it being in SVN couple with the fact that you write tests I think the turn around time on things like this would be drastically reduced.

Folks who use the sandbox + accurate JIRA use + tests will make the process of integrating patches far easier.

- maven-changes-plugin hasn't seen a release for UI don't know how
  long, although the plugin is required for migrating most Maven 1
  projects

It can be the first thing you work on in the sandbox! :-)

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