Jason van Zyl wrote:

On 15-Jun-09, at 10:29 AM, Lukas Theussl wrote:



Jason van Zyl wrote:
On 11-Jun-09, at 8:53 AM, Lukas Theussl wrote:

Hi Olivier,

How does this relate to MNG-3402?

This doesn't relate to anything in 3.x because it's not going to be an issue because no doxia classes will be distributed with 3.x. Not sure what you guys are planning for 3.x.


There were never any doxia classes distributed with any version of maven, that's not the issue.

doxia-sink and yes it is an issue. This particular issue aside.

Well that's exacly the point about MNG-3402. The only place where a doxia class is referenced in maven 2.x core is MavenReport in reporting-api, but the Sink there is the old codehaus Sink. This interface, apart from getting deprecated, has not changed since I don't know when. So even though the MavenArtifactFilterManager puts the maven Sink in front in your class path, the class is never actually referenced.


The problem is (was) that maven 2.x is filtering the doxia version (MNG-3402), which makes it impossible for plugins to use their own (updated) version of doxia (usecase: pdf plugin). The development of doxia was hindered not by it's coupling to maven, but by maven refusing any update to doxia.

The that immediately presents the problem we have. If doxia is hindered by Maven not updating then it's not really and independent project used by anyone.

I think you misunderstood me or maybe I misunderstand you. I did not say "doxia is hindered by Maven not updating", I said "...by maven refusing any update to doxia". The current site plugin on trunk is still using doxia 1.0 which is effectively more than a year old now and has seen only few changes the year before that. Doxia 1.1 was released 3 months ago and since then we've solved 47 issues for 1.1.1. It would be released by now if it wasn't for those new Apache requirements. Together with the ~100 issues solved in 1.1, this makes ~150 solved issues that current maven site users are still waiting for.

Why is it a problem that doxia is "not really and independent project used by anyone"? Does doxia have any different status than, say, wagon, surefire, archetype...?



But anyway, I'm happy that all this will be no issue in 3.x :)


Nope.

Yes, really, I am happy...

Doxia will truly be an independent project and will survive or die based on the value provided reporting implementation created with it.

Not sure how to parse that and again, don't know what you mean with "independent project"?



-Lukas


Just wondering because we had a lot of discussions about this issue in the past wrt Doxia release plan [1], and from other peoples' comments I always got the impression that it will lead to trouble... even though I never noticed anything myself.

-Lukas

[1] http://www.nabble.com/MNG-3402-tt17207692.html



[email protected] wrote:
Author: olamy
Date: Wed Jun 10 21:30:40 2009
New Revision: 783525
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=783525&view=rev
Log:
don't filter doxia-sink-api. users will be still able to run : mvn site:site
Modified:
maven/components/trunk/maven-core/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/DefaultArtifactFilterManager.java Modified: maven/components/trunk/maven-core/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/DefaultArtifactFilterManager.java URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/components/trunk/maven-core/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/DefaultArtifactFilterManager.java?rev=783525&r1=783524&r2=783525&view=diff ============================================================================== --- maven/components/trunk/maven-core/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/DefaultArtifactFilterManager.java (original) +++ maven/components/trunk/maven-core/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/DefaultArtifactFilterManager.java Wed Jun 10 21:30:40 2009
@@ -54,7 +54,7 @@
       artifacts.add( "classworlds" );
       artifacts.add( "plexus-classworlds" );
       artifacts.add( "commons-cli" );
-        artifacts.add( "doxia-sink-api" );
+        //artifacts.add( "doxia-sink-api" );
       artifacts.add( "jsch" );
       artifacts.add( "maven-artifact" );
       artifacts.add( "maven-artifact-manager" );

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