Hi,

> De : Jason van Zyl <jvan...@sonatype.com>
> [...]
> Personally, I don't see a different XML format being any great usability 
> gain. 
> With editors and IDEs it's not that bad and you also have to consider what 
> people are already accustom to. I honestly think another XML format would 
> just 
> be confusing and not really buy us a whole lot. The debate of clarity is 
> subjective. I like the elements, you like attributes the debate could go on 
> forever but as of today we got what we got.

Just my 2 cents as a Maven evangelist in a big private company. Even if
Maven is around for years now, basic endusers just start to get
accustomed to pom.xml and Maven philosophy (really! people are far slowest to 
change than in OpenSource project team).

Please, please don't mess everything. Small additions are fine, but I think a 
new format is a bad idea even if it is optional. One of advantage of Maven is 
standardization across all our projects. If there are several format allowed, 
some projects will start using new one when others are still using the former 
and it will lead to a total mess.

So a big +1 to Jason.

> 
> On 2009-09-04, at 5:21 PM, Christian Edward Gruber wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> >    So I saw Jason's highlights of 3.x future plans, and decoupling POMs 
> > from 
> format.  We're starting to use m3 on an open-source little project at Google, 
> and the main problem people have with Maven has been the gawd-awful (not my 
> words) of the xml format.  I used the maven-yamlpom-plugin to simulate this, 
> by 
> having a wrapper script that syncs a pom.yml with the pom.xml before 
> executing 
> any other maven command, but it's a hack, and I'd rather (since we're already 
> using 3 anyway) try to help us get to the point where i can just have a 
> pom.yml 
> and have maven (and its various integrations) understand it.  So...
> > 
> > 1.  Any update on where that is - I haven't been following svn commits 
> > lately, 
> but I'd like to start re-syncing wtih m3 progress
> > 2.  Any suggestions on where the seams are around pom building so I can 
> > start 
> looking at how to provide an alternative format
> > 3.  Anyone already working on this specific thing?
> > 
> > cheers,
> > Christian.
> > 
> > 
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> Thanks,
> 
> Jason
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