On 2009-11-16, at 10:15 AM, Brett Porter wrote:

You've lost me.


Then I consider you lost. Go back and read what I wrote. At any rate this is not by biggest concern at the moment. If the conditions 1-3 are met in the last email and Larry says it's fine, I'm fine.

Everything I see at http://svn.sonatype.org/m2eclipse/sandbox/trunk/maven-performance-tests/ is under the ALv2 accdg to headers except:
- the contents of a test maven repository
- http://svn.sonatype.org/m2eclipse/sandbox/trunk/maven-performance-tests/remoteRepo/ which is a subset of the central repo to avoid having to download things (which can probably be done differently anyway) - http://svn.sonatype.org/m2eclipse/sandbox/trunk/maven-performance-tests/src/test/lib/ivjperf.dll which is EPL in binary form which is not a problem according to the policy.


And the actual patch itself, which is EPL. Which is the problem. It's EPL because we want it to go back. When who knows.

The README.txt instructs folks to check out EPL sources and apply a patch. That's not a problem, there are no EPL sources in the main repository.


The patch is EPL. It may get bigger (as I said in the previous posts). It may not get merged at all and that's not unlikely with the pace at which patches get absorbed in some Eclipse projects and we may just merge it. I definitely want to be able to release it.

You said "There are licensing problems with checking it in here which is why it's not here", which sounded like you wanted it to be here, but it can't. I wanted to point out that, in fact, it can. I'm trying to answer your concern, not force you to move it.


You talk to Larry, if he signs off we're good. We'll just leave it where it is until then. How's that sound for a reasonable path forward?

Thanks,
Brett

On 16/11/2009, at 7:55 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:

If you can get Larry to sign off on:

1) We going to keep modifying the source as necessary
2) It's EPL and it should be that way because that's where we got it from
3) And we might want to release it

I'm not going to discuss this ad nauseum because I believe Larry would say technically it's going to be a violation of the license even though no one cares or will prosecute us. But what's the point if we don't adhere to some semblance of order.

If you want to do the work and Larry says cool. That's cool with me and we can move it over.

On 2009-11-16, at 9:27 AM, Brett Porter wrote:



On 16/11/2009, at 7:14 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:

http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html

The performance framework is EPL, which is not an authorized license according to our documentation.

You mean org.eclipse.test.performance here?

We are likely to make some modifications, if we haven't already, and so it's easier not to put it here. If we made anything more then minimal changes we have to back it out.

You mean http://svn.sonatype.org/m2eclipse/sandbox/trunk/maven-performance-tests/org.eclipse.test.performance.patch here? Everything else in http://svn.sonatype.org/m2eclipse/sandbox/trunk/maven-performance-tests/ is under ALv2?

If that is the case, can't we commit the patch & EPL'd binary to the SVN repo here (or put the binary in a Maven repository), and submit the patches upstream in the hope that we only need to use the official Eclipse binary down the track?

This shouldn't be a problem in general - we aren't checking in any EPL sources. And further, we aren't intending to redistribute the performance framework as a release anyway.

Cheers,
Brett



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