On Aug 8, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Brett Porter wrote: > > On 09/08/2010, at 10:55 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: > >>>> >>>> So I refute this with an act by Kristian today which was to sign the >>>> Sonatype CLA, sign up for the mailing list, asked for access to the wiki, >>>> already has access and has been working with Benjamin. You'll also notice >>>> he hasn't participated in this discussion at all he's just doing. So I >>>> completely disagree there is any real pain, just a general unwillingness >>>> to attempt anything different. So you can spend 15 minutes telling me how >>>> hard it is to get involved or spend 15 minutes getting involved like >>>> Kristian just did. >>> >>> You mean like spending 15 minutes seeing if I could replicate Arnaud's >>> results? I'm one of the few who has invested the time to try and track any >>> artifact work over the last few years, and I don't really appreciate my >>> commitment being called into question. >>> >> >> That's not what I meant at all. I'm not sure how you're coming up with that >> interpretation. I'm saying it's not hard for people to participate. Kristian >> demonstrated. I thought you were talking about people contributing in >> general not yourself. I wasn't talking about you specifically. > > "So you can spend 15 minutes telling me how hard it is to get involved or > spend 15 minutes getting involved" was what I interpreted as that. >
I meant you as in any person, I know you don't have a problem finding issue tracking systems. >> >>> As for signing the Sonatype CLA: >>> "Sonatype requires that you assign the intellectual property rights in your >>> contribution to Sonatype (with a license back to you to use it in any way >>> you please)." >>> >>> No thanks. >>> >> >> If we want to move anything to Eclipse, then we need to be able to give them >> everything. We've already set a precedent by doing this with Tycho. We just >> turned around and assigned everything to them. > > I know why you need to, but I don't like the other options it also gives you. > Not sure where that leaves anyone that has an assignment agreement with their > employer. > In practice for a product or project at Sonatype if you don't want to sign it we won't risk taking anyone's code. We tried to make one agreement, the onus is on the contributor. When code we know will move on to Eclipse the Foundation insists on individual and employer agreements or more generally I let Eclipse deal with it. > Anyway, that's getting out of scope for this list. > > - Brett > > -- > Brett Porter > br...@apache.org > http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > Thanks, Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl --------------------------------------------------------- What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people can fix bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people. -- Paul Graham
