So are people fine with using Aether 1.13. I've already got the necessary 
changes if we want to go ahead with that.

On Nov 8, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:

> 
> On Nov 8, 2011, at 12:15 AM, Brett Porter wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 07/11/2011, at 8:43 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> 
>>> You guys decided you wanted to wait so let's just wait. I didn't think it 
>>> would take this long to get through either but it is what it is. So 
>>> realistically we're looking at 3.0.4 in 4 weeks.
>> 
>> But it could also be longer.
>> 
> 
> Yes, but that's the decision you made.
> 
>> I don't see why we should treat the existing EPL release any differently 
>> than if it were to be released from Eclipse at this point.
> 
> Yes, I tried to explain this a month ago. The code is all Sonatype copyright, 
> and EPL. Wherever the code is that fact remains the same.
> 
>> Going to Eclipse is a positive step from now, there will be better 
>> transparency and governance, but arriving there is not the end of the road. 
>> It's going to be even longer that it is more diverse, graduates the 
>> incubator there, and becomes just consumable as a dependency.
>> 
>> If someone wants to do a 3.0.4 release, they should do it, whether that 
>> doesn't include this fix, or delivers it as a patch on the version we're 
>> using, or uses the EPL version from Github. If nobody is prepared to do a 
>> release now, that's fine too, but they shouldn't have to sit around waiting. 
>> The whole reason I was concerned about Aether in the first place was because 
>> we'd get stuck not being able to ship a fix to Maven without getting around 
>> another project - we can't let ourselves get into that position.
>> 
>> In my ideal world, Benjamin would cherry-pick the fix he's already made for 
>> the issue Mark is concerned about, release 1.11.1, and we upgrade and 
>> someone releases Maven 3.0.4. That wouldn't take long, wouldn't change the 
>> direction everything is going, and let everyone get on with it.
>> 
>> Is there a reason we shouldn't do that?
>> 
> 
> Because it's far more work than necessary, use Aether 1.13 that is EPL and is 
> released. I can update it and start the release process tomorrow.
> 
>> Cheers,
>> Brett
>> 
>> --
>> Brett Porter
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>> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
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> Thanks,
> 
> Jason
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Thanks,

Jason

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