I'm fine, but process says you should call a vote to change the
dependency from the ASL version to the EPL licensed version. Yes there
was a vote before, but the circumstances have changed, and hence there
is strong likelyhood (IMHO) that a re-vote might result in a different
answer

-Stephen

On 10 November 2011 13:50, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote:
> So are people fine with using Aether 1.13. I've already got the necessary 
> changes if we want to go ahead with that.
>
> On Nov 8, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2011, at 12:15 AM, Brett Porter wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 07/11/2011, at 8:43 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>
>>>> You guys decided you wanted to wait so let's just wait. I didn't think it 
>>>> would take this long to get through either but it is what it is. So 
>>>> realistically we're looking at 3.0.4 in 4 weeks.
>>>
>>> But it could also be longer.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, but that's the decision you made.
>>
>>> I don't see why we should treat the existing EPL release any differently 
>>> than if it were to be released from Eclipse at this point.
>>
>> Yes, I tried to explain this a month ago. The code is all Sonatype 
>> copyright, and EPL. Wherever the code is that fact remains the same.
>>
>>> Going to Eclipse is a positive step from now, there will be better 
>>> transparency and governance, but arriving there is not the end of the road. 
>>> It's going to be even longer that it is more diverse, graduates the 
>>> incubator there, and becomes just consumable as a dependency.
>>>
>>> If someone wants to do a 3.0.4 release, they should do it, whether that 
>>> doesn't include this fix, or delivers it as a patch on the version we're 
>>> using, or uses the EPL version from Github. If nobody is prepared to do a 
>>> release now, that's fine too, but they shouldn't have to sit around 
>>> waiting. The whole reason I was concerned about Aether in the first place 
>>> was because we'd get stuck not being able to ship a fix to Maven without 
>>> getting around another project - we can't let ourselves get into that 
>>> position.
>>>
>>> In my ideal world, Benjamin would cherry-pick the fix he's already made for 
>>> the issue Mark is concerned about, release 1.11.1, and we upgrade and 
>>> someone releases Maven 3.0.4. That wouldn't take long, wouldn't change the 
>>> direction everything is going, and let everyone get on with it.
>>>
>>> Is there a reason we shouldn't do that?
>>>
>>
>> Because it's far more work than necessary, use Aether 1.13 that is EPL and 
>> is released. I can update it and start the release process tomorrow.
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Brett
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brett Porter
>>> [email protected]
>>> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>>>
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>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jason
>>
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>> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget
>> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful
>> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a
>> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as
>> signs of decline and decay.
>>
>> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
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>
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