2012/11/12 Igor Fedorenko <i...@ifedorenko.com>:
>
>
> On 12-11-11 6:52 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>>>
>>> If the discussion is now transitioning to users want flexible
>>> logging and the choice of a logging framework that's fine. But I
>>> still maintain the CLI use of logging can be limited and
>>> constrained while allowing integrators to make the small changes
>>> necessary to add flexible logging. But if we want to choose a
>>> framework let's look at the options, if people want to go that
>>> route, and select the best option.
>>
>> Integrators ? Again what do you mean with that ? I don't understand
>> why the default Apache Maven couldn't be able to propose a default
>> advanced logging implementation. The size of the jars is around 500K
>> so frankly I don't see that as a blocking issue as we already
>> download internet:-). (and perso I'd like  to test some ideas using
>> jansi for possible colorized logging) And I don't understand why we
>> must wait folks doing alternate distributions providing this
>> feature.
>>
>
> m2e uses logback and switching to another slf4j provider will be
> extremely expansive if not impossible at this point. I believe
> downstream m2e consumers like JBoss Tools and Spring Tool Suite are in
> the same position. We already repackage Maven as part of m2e build, so
> removing slf4j-simple or log4j will not a problem, at least as long as
> Maven core functionality only uses slf4j and does not depend on
> specific logging library.
Yup that's the case core will only use slf4j api (except some sys
props) Perso I don't want we go in dependant logging framework model.
So m2e wont' need to change something.

AFAICS I don't see that as a real problem it's just a matter of
removing/replacing some jars (maybe that will be more easy than you do
today)
Maybe I miss something ?

>
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> Regards,
> Igor
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