As I see it, you are using the version number to communicate with the
tiny number of people who have made plugins that depend on Aether.

I would rather see us use the version number to communicate with the
vast number of people who use Maven.

So, I'd switch to Eclipse Aether, including the need to fork a few
plugins, as 3.2, and use the number 4.0.0 for a version that has real
user-visible impact and value.

If you presented a long list of wonderful user-visible improvements
that would result from the adoption of the new Aether, I'd be happier
with your proposal.


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@tesla.io> wrote:
>
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Mark Derricutt <m...@talios.com> wrote:
>
>> A quick answer whilst I let my thoughts dwell on the full long post..
>>
>> If we're jumping to a major release here, is this a viable time to also 
>> update the schema and address of the things we've long been wanting there? ( 
>> mixins of some form ) - or is this out of scope ( of this discussion at 
>> least ).
>>
>
> To me it's out of scope. I want to get the API changes out there and signal 
> the potential of major API breakages. Features can be rolled out whenever. To 
> me the change in versions is to signal API breakage, not feature addition.
>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> No one seems to object to doing a release with the SLF4J support without 
>>> the isolation so I wanted to discuss what happens when we integrate Eclipse 
>>> Aether and suggest an alternate release path.
>>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Jason van Zyl
> Founder & CTO, Sonatype
> Founder,  Apache Maven
> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
>
>  -- Shakespeare
>
>
>
>
>


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@tesla.io> wrote:
>
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Mark Derricutt <m...@talios.com> wrote:
>
>> A quick answer whilst I let my thoughts dwell on the full long post..
>>
>> If we're jumping to a major release here, is this a viable time to also 
>> update the schema and address of the things we've long been wanting there? ( 
>> mixins of some form ) - or is this out of scope ( of this discussion at 
>> least ).
>>
>
> To me it's out of scope. I want to get the API changes out there and signal 
> the potential of major API breakages. Features can be rolled out whenever. To 
> me the change in versions is to signal API breakage, not feature addition.
>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> No one seems to object to doing a release with the SLF4J support without 
>>> the isolation so I wanted to discuss what happens when we integrate Eclipse 
>>> Aether and suggest an alternate release path.
>>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Jason van Zyl
> Founder & CTO, Sonatype
> Founder,  Apache Maven
> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
>
>  -- Shakespeare
>
>
>
>
>

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