On 21 July 2013 13:38, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Also keep in mind, there is likely a large difference between the 
> LICENSE/NOTICE files that would go into a "source release" than would go into 
> the binary convenience releases.   90% of the source NOTICE/LICESE files are 
> just plain Apache License and the simple 4 line NOTICE.

Agreed.

<pedantMode>there are 4 non-blank lines; there is another blank line
in the middle</pedantMode>

> For the binary, the LICENSE  needs links to the license of all the other jars 
> shipped in the package.   It also MAY need extra notices in the NOTICE.   The 
> RR plugin certainly can help with the first part of that.

But remember that only bits that are actually included in the binary
archive should be mentioned in N&L.
Unless a dependency is actually bundled in the archive, it does not
count as far as the N&L are concerned.

> Dan
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Dennis Lundberg <denn...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Has anyone asked if we can use generated files instead?
>>
>> Many of the ASF rules are written by people that have not concidered the
>> fact that things such as these can be automated. Therefore many of these
>> rules are stated in a way that does not fit directly into the Maven way of
>> doing things.
>>
>> We do include these files in "every Apache distribution" we make. It's just
>> that we do not store them in SCM.
>>
>> --
>> Dennis Lundberg
>> Den 21 jul 2013 11:13 skrev "Robert Scholte" <rfscho...@apache.org>:
>>
>>> From http://www.apache.org/dev/**licensing-howto.html#source-**
>>> tree-location<http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#source-tree-location>
>>>
>>> "Location Within the Source Tree
>>>
>>> LICENSE and NOTICE belong at the top level of the source tree. They may be
>>> named LICENSE.txt and NOTICE.txt, but the bare names are preferred."
>>>
>>> If you consider a release root as the top level of the source tree, then
>>> they need to be placed here.
>>> And yes, I'm aware that they are already bundled with the binairy, but
>>> these lines are quite clear where these files are expected.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> Op Sun, 21 Jul 2013 08:57:28 +0200 schreef Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org
>>>> :
>>>
>>> why?
>>>> Is it mandatory? If yes I'd like to have some links.
>>>> AFAIK those files are generated.
>>>> This mean we will have to add those files for all artifacts we produce.
>>>> If one day the content change we will have to change all files in the
>>>> scm instead of only the plugin which generate that.
>>>>
>>>> Seriously?
>>>>
>>>> 2013/7/20  <rfscho...@apache.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Author: rfscholte
>>>>> Date: Sat Jul 20 12:58:34 2013
>>>>> New Revision: 1505129
>>>>>
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1505129
>>>>> Log:
>>>>> Add LICENSE and NOTICE files
>>>>>
>>>>> Added:
>>>>>    maven/plugins/trunk/maven-**install-plugin/LICENSE
>>>>>    maven/plugins/trunk/maven-**install-plugin/NOTICE
>>>>>
>>>>> Added: maven/plugins/trunk/maven-**install-plugin/LICENSE
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/**maven/plugins/trunk/maven-**
>>>>> install-plugin/LICENSE?rev=**1505129&view=auto<http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/plugins/trunk/maven-install-plugin/LICENSE?rev=1505129&view=auto>
>>>>> ==============================**==============================**
>>>>> ==================
>>>>> --- maven/plugins/trunk/maven-**install-plugin/LICENSE (added)
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>>>>> 12:58:34 2013
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>>>>> install-plugin/NOTICE?rev=**1505129&view=auto<http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/plugins/trunk/maven-install-plugin/NOTICE?rev=1505129&view=auto>
>>>>> ==============================**==============================**
>>>>> ==================
>>>>> --- maven/plugins/trunk/maven-**install-plugin/NOTICE (added)
>>>>> +++ maven/plugins/trunk/maven-**install-plugin/NOTICE Sat Jul 20
>>>>> 12:58:34 2013
>>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@
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