Absolutely.  I am definitely not proposing that for right away.  That's
probably a separate discuss thread anyway as we get closer to make sure we
air out any concerns and make sure we aren't leaving a lot of PRs with
difficult merges and so on.

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Matt Foley <ma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Could I ask please that any major reformat wait until the Metron 0.4.0
> release is out?
> Such across-the-board changes usually induce instability for a while, no
> matter how carefully done.
>
> Thanks,
> --Matt
> (with RM hat on)
>
> On 5/9/17, 4:12 PM, "Justin Leet" <justinjl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     https://github.com/apache/incubator-metron/pull/577 is up, based on
> this
>     discussion.  It includes instructions for setting up both warnings in
>     IntelliJ and autoformatting settings. They're a bit reconstructed
> after the
>     fact, so if anything is wrong, let me know and I'll update them.
>
>     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/METRON-747 can follow more or
> less
>     whenever.  It's pretty easy to do a bulk reformat of only Java files.
> Like
>     I said before, we probably want to regenerate anything autogenerated
>     afterwards (i.e. anything resulting from the Stellar grammar), since
> I'm
>     not convinced that they'll actually be ignored.  Checkstyle supports a
>     couple different ways of handling warnings, so the way those files use
>     might not actually work as expected.  I'd rather just blanket format,
>     regenerated, and then call it.
>
>     I am inclined to not turn on enforcement of anything until we think
> through
>     exactly how we want it to work (e.g. handling just avoiding
> introducing new
>     errors vs just not allowing any errors vs. setting max errors per
> module).
>     I'm not sure how other projects handle this, and we probably want to
> look
>     into it.
>
>     On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 6:07 AM, Justin Leet <justinjl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>     > I'll have a PR up a little later this week once I have a chance to
> sit
>     > down and test/organize notes a little more.
>     >
>     > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:04 PM, zeo...@gmail.com <zeo...@gmail.com>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >> +1 definitely a good idea
>     >>
>     >> On Mon, May 8, 2017, 9:07 PM Michael Miklavcic <
>     >> michael.miklav...@gmail.com>
>     >> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> > +1 Justin. Thanks.
>     >> >
>     >> > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Matt Foley <
> mfo...@hortonworks.com>
>     >> wrote:
>     >> >
>     >> > > +1.  I originally suggested the Sun style as a starting point,
> and I
>     >> find
>     >> > > Justin’s arguments convincing, especially if there is a
> pre-packaged
>     >> > Google
>     >> > > style checking plug-in.
>     >> > > --Matt
>     >> > >
>     >> > > On 5/8/17, 9:47 AM, "Kyle Richardson" <
> kylerichards...@gmail.com>
>     >> wrote:
>     >> > >
>     >> > >     +1 Thanks, Justin. I'm all for adopting the Google style
> guide.
>     >> > >
>     >> > >     -Kyle
>     >> > >
>     >> > >     On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Justin Leet <
>     >> justinjl...@gmail.com>
>     >> > > wrote:
>     >> > >
>     >> > >     > Sigh, the message was hidden below the fold.
>     >> > >     >
>     >> > >     > Part of what I've been playing around with is doing
> this.  It's
>     >> > > pretty easy
>     >> > >     > to set up both autoformatting and warnings in idea.
> There's a
>     >> > > checkstyle
>     >> > >     > plugin, and you can just import the appropriate file on
> each.
>     >> As a
>     >> > > fair
>     >> > >     > warning, until we do the blanket reformatting there will
> be a
>     >> lot
>     >> > of
>     >> > >     > warning highlighting in a lot of the Java files.
>     >> > >     >
>     >> > >     > I'll be documenting that as part of the ticket
> (regardless of
>     >> > > checkstyle
>     >> > >     > configuration specifics), and I'll also update the wiki
> (or
>     >> point
>     >> > to
>     >> > > links
>     >> > >     > for it, I believe Checkstyle's docs walk through how to
> do it)
>     >> as
>     >> > > part of
>     >> > >     > the exercise.
>     >> > >     >
>     >> > >     > Sorry about spamming the list.
>     >> > >     >
>     >> > >     > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Justin Leet <
>     >> > justinjl...@gmail.com>
>     >> > >     > wrote:
>     >> > >     >
>     >> > >     > > Accidentally sent this to only Otto, instead of the
> whole
>     >> group.
>     >> > >     > >
>     >> > >     > > Part of what I've been playing around with is doing
> this.
>     >> It's
>     >> > > pretty
>     >> > >     > > easy to set up both autoformatting and warnings in idea.
>     >> > There's a
>     >> > >     > > checkstyle plugin, and you can just import the
> appropriate
>     >> file
>     >> > on
>     >> > > each.
>     >> > >     > > As a fair warning, until we do the blanket reformatting
> there
>     >> > will
>     >> > > be a
>     >> > >     > lot
>     >> > >     > > of warning highlighting in a lot of the Java files.
>     >> > >     > >
>     >> > >     > > I'll be documenting that as part of the ticket
> (regardless of
>     >> > > checkstyle
>     >> > >     > > configuration specifics), and I'll also update the wiki
> (or
>     >> point
>     >> > > to
>     >> > >     > links
>     >> > >     > > for it, I believe Checkstyle's docs walk through how to
> do
>     >> it) as
>     >> > > part of
>     >> > >     > > the exercise.
>     >> > >     > >
>     >> > >     > > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Otto Fowler <
>     >> > > ottobackwa...@gmail.com>
>     >> > >     > > wrote:
>     >> > >     > >
>     >> > >     > >> +1.
>     >> > >     > >> Does anyone have an idea setup for this?
>     >> > >     > >>
>     >> > >     > >>
>     >> > >     > >> On May 8, 2017 at 09:29:15, Justin Leet (
>     >> justinjl...@gmail.com)
>     >> > > wrote:
>     >> > >     > >>
>     >> > >     > >> I've been taking a look at setting up checkstyle per
>     >> > >     > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/METRON-746.
>     >> > >     > >>
>     >> > >     > >> Given that we don't actually enforce any style right
> now
>     >> (saying
>     >> > > we use
>     >> > >     > >> Sun's is not the same as enforcing it!), and plan to
> do a
>     >> > blanket
>     >> > > format
>     >> > >     > >> after we get checkstyle setup, this seems like a good
>     >> > opportunity
>     >> > > to
>     >> > >     > >> discuss what we want to actually implement.
>     >> > >     > >>
>     >> > >     > >> In particular, I'm proposing moving to Google's code
> style
>     >> guide
>     >> > > and
>     >> > >     > away
>     >> > >     > >> from Sun's.
>     >> > >     > >>
>     >> > >     > >> - Google's style guide already address the
> (admittedly) minor
>     >> > > issues we
>     >> > >     > >> have with the Sun Style, in particular two spaces and
> line
>     >> > length
>     >> > > (100
>     >> > >     > in
>     >> > >     > >> Google's). I'd prefer to just use something built-in
> as much
>     >> as
>     >> > >     > possible,
>     >> > >     > >> and it seems like Google's style is closer to what
> we're
>     >> looking
>     >> > > for out
>     >> > >     > >> of
>     >> > >     > >> the box.
>     >> > >     > >> - Not only is it built in, the explanation for each
> rule (and
>     >> > > where
>     >> > >     > >> checkstyle falls short) actually exists.
>     >> > >     > >> - http://checkstyle.sourceforge.net/google_style.html
>     >> > >     > >> - http://checkstyle.sourceforge.net/sun_style.html
>     >> > >     > >> - Storm uses it, so it makes our code's style more
> compatible
>     >> > with
>     >> > >     > >> one of our core dependencies (and one we've had to dig
> into
>     >> > > repeatedly
>     >> > >     > >> during upgrades and such).
>     >> > >     > >> - https://github.com/apache/storm/blob/master/pom.xml#
> L1100
>     >> > >     > >> - I personally find Google's guide easier to read and
> digest.
>     >> > I'm
>     >> > >     > >> curious how other people feel.
>     >> > >     > >>
>     >> > >     > >> For ease of comparison:
>     >> > >     > >> Sun's guide:
>     >> > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/codeconvtoc-
>     >> > > 136057.
>     >> > >     > >> html
>     >> > >     > >> Google's guide: https://google.github.io/
>     >> > > styleguide/javaguide.html
>     >> > >     > >>
>     >> > >     > >>
>     >> > >     > >
>     >> > >     >
>     >> > >
>     >> > >
>     >> > >
>     >> >
>     >> --
>     >>
>     >> Jon
>     >>
>     >
>     >
>
>
>
>

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