Whups, here is a correctly updated roadmap.  Also, the METRON-1309 PR is
out and I've completed my testing so it's ready for review:

1.  *DONE* - Move the bro-plugin-kafka to its own repository (Prereq
to METRON-813).
2.  *PR OPEN* - Update metron-deployment to pull the plugin from
apache/metron-bro-plugin-kafka (METRON-1309).
3.  *PR OPEN* - Reorganize the plugin naming to be more appropriate for a
package (METRON-1303, Prereq to METRON-813).
4.  Transform the plugin to be a package containing a plugin (METRON-813).
5.  Add the package to bro/packages[4].
During 2-5.  Upgrade full-dev to run on CentOS 7 (METRON-559, soft prereq
to METRON-1088).
6.  Upgrade bro to 2.5.2 (METRON-1088).
7.  Update metron-deployment to install the package instead of using the
plugin in apache/metron.
8.  Add features/improvements (METRON-1304, METRON-1305, etc.) to
apache/metron-bro-plugin-kafka.

Jon

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:57 PM zeo...@gmail.com <zeo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not strongly against it, but my biggest interest was not wasting time
> doing something that will get ripped out fairly quickly.  That said,
> discussing this is taking more time than doing the work, and I should have
> a PR out soon that does what you requested as soon as my full-dev tests
> complete.  New roadmap:
>
> 1.  *DONE* - Move the bro-plugin-kafka to its own repository (Prereq
> to METRON-813).
> 2.  Update metron-deployment to pull the plugin from
> apache/metron-bro-plugin-kafka (METRON-1309).
> 3.  *PR OPEN* - Reorganize the plugin naming to be more appropriate for a
> package (METRON-1303, Prereq to METRON-813).
> 4.  Transform the plugin to be a package containing a plugin (METRON-813).
> 5.  Add the package to bro/packages[4].
> During 2-5.  Upgrade full-dev to run on CentOS 7 (METRON-559, soft prereq
> to METRON-1088).
> 6.  Upgrade bro to 2.5.2 (METRON-1088).
> 7.  Update metron-deployment to install the package instead of using the
> plugin in apache/metron.
> 8.  Remove the plugin[1] from apache/metron entirely.
> 9.  Add features/improvements (METRON-1304, METRON-1305, etc.) to
> apache/metron-bro-plugin-kafka.
>
> Jon
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 12:59 PM Nick Allen <n...@nickallen.org> wrote:
>
>> Let me put the sub-module discussion aside for a second.  I don't really
>> have much of an opinion on that quite yet.  I need to research it a bit
>> more, but thanks for sharing the pros/cons.
>>
>> My main point is that I would like to see us update our deployment code to
>> deploy the Bro plugin from the new code repository BEFORE we make any
>> changes to the code.  So the next bit of work would do the following:
>>  * Remove the legacy code from `metron/metron-sensors/bro-kafka-plugin`
>>  * Update `metron/metron-deployment/roles/bro` so that it builds and
>> deploys the plugin to Full Dev from the new repository
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:00 AM zeo...@gmail.com <zeo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > So, here's my argument against the sub-module approach:
>> > - If we add a sub-module into apache/metron then the way you clone from
>> > github changes (--recursive).  This could break any instructions to
>> spin up
>> > Metron full-dev, when they're using the bro plugin (forums, blog posts,
>> > metron READMEs, etc.).
>> > - This also requires that we commit a change to apache/metron in order
>> to
>> > make any changes to apache/metron-bro-plugin-kafka effective in the
>> > project.  Not that big of a deal, but notable.
>> > - The overhead of these two changes at once is very minimal, since
>> > packaging is effectively moving the same commands we run in ansible to
>> be
>> > run by bro-pkg.
>> >
>> > If we follow the approach I lined up before we can version the package
>> in
>> > bro-pkg.meta, and when our scripts are used spin up bro we can just pin
>> a
>> > specific version of the package, and bump it up in apache/metron as we
>> want
>> > to use updates of apache/metron-bro-plugin-kafka.  That said, this is
>> > implying that we're okay making two changes at once with my method -
>> use an
>> > external repo for the sensor, and move to a package from a plugin.
>> Since
>> > moving from a package to a plugin is literally just the following
>> commands,
>> > I'm not too concerned:
>> >  - Clone the package repo and checkout to the right branch, if
>> applicable
>> >  - Run the built-in unit tests.  If they fail, alert the user and get
>> > confirmation if they want to move forward
>> >  - Run the configure and make commands
>> >
>> > You can see an aggregate of all bro package configs here
>> > <https://github.com/bro/packages/blob/master/aggregate.meta>, which
>> show
>> > different scenarios/examples of what needs to be added to make something
>> > into a bro package - it is rather straightfoward.  Happy to continue
>> > discussing.
>> >
>> > Jon
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:34 AM Nick Allen <n...@nickallen.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > ​I would suggest that we shift our existing deployment routines to use
>> > the
>> > > new code repository, prior to making changes to "packag-ify" it.  That
>> > way
>> > > we know that our code reorganization is definitely working and has
>> been
>> > > successful.
>> > >
>> > > Prior to step 2, we would...
>> > >    * Add a sub-module pointing to the repo and ensure that the Ansible
>> > > deployment to Full Dev can deploy Bro with the Kafka plugin
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 9:19 AM, zeo...@gmail.com <zeo...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > So here's an update on this, and I'm looking for any suggestions
>> > > regarding
>> > > > the roadmap.  If anybody isn't clear about the implementation
>> specifics
>> > > or
>> > > > history here, I'm happy to reiterate, but it has also been
>> discussed on
>> > > the
>> > > > mailing list in the past.
>> > > >
>> > > > Right now, we have a direct migration of metron-sensors/bro-plugin-
>> > > > kafka[1]
>> > > > to its own repository[2], which is required in order to turn it
>> into a
>> > > bro
>> > > > package (the preferred mechanism of managing and installing bro
>> plugins
>> > > as
>> > > > of 2.5).  Bro 2.5 also has an improvement[3] which I think we should
>> > > > consider important to take advantage of in our testing environments
>> and
>> > > > instructions.  Here is a more well-defined roadmap suggestion:
>> > > >
>> > > > 1.  *DONE* - Move the bro-plugin-kafka to its own repository (Prereq
>> > > > to METRON-813).
>> > > > 2.  *PR OPEN* - Reorganize the plugin naming to be more appropriate
>> > for a
>> > > > package (METRON-1303, Prereq to METRON-813).
>> > > > 3.  Transform the plugin to be a package containing a plugin
>> > > (METRON-813).
>> > > > 4.  Add the package to bro/packages[4].
>> > > > During 2-4.  Upgrade full-dev to run on CentOS 7 (METRON-559, soft
>> > prereq
>> > > > to METRON-1088).
>> > > > 5.  Upgrade bro to 2.5.2 (METRON-1088).
>> > > > 6.  Update metron-deployment to install the package instead of using
>> > the
>> > > > plugin in apache/metron.
>> > > > 7.  Remove the plugin[1] from apache/metron entirely.
>> > > > 8.  Add features/improvements (METRON-1304, METRON-1305, etc.) to
>> > > > apache/metron-bro-plugin-kafka.
>> > > >   - This is why my METRON-1304 PR has "DO NOT MERGE" - it was
>> simply an
>> > > > easy win to bust out this morning while I was thinking of it.
>> > > >
>> > > > Some alternatives we may want to consider:
>> > > > - In the interim, we could change our ansible scripts to pull in the
>> > code
>> > > > from the external repository, but build it the same as we currently
>> do
>> > > (as
>> > > > a plugin but not a package).
>> > > > - We could replace bro-plugin-kafka folder with a sub-module
>> pointing
>> > to
>> > > > the external repo, but this may be more trouble than it's worth (new
>> > > > cloning instructions, new folder name, etc.).
>> > > > - We can try to work around some of the issues with running Bro 2.5
>> on
>> > > > CentOS 6, but it would be less preferred.
>> > > >
>> > > > Any comments are welcome.
>> > > >
>> > > > 1:
>> > > > https://github.com/apache/metron/tree/master/metron-
>> > > > sensors/bro-plugin-kafka
>> > > > 2:  https://github.com/apache/metron-bro-plugin-kafka
>> > > > 3:  https://www.bro.org/sphinx/cluster/index.html#logger
>> > > > 4:  https://github.com/bro/packages
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 8:52 AM Nick Allen <n...@nickallen.org>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > > As of bro-pkg 1.1, I need to redo my `bro-pkg.meta` work to
>> support
>> > > the
>> > > > > newly-added
>> > > > > `external_depends`, and also upgrade to bro 2.5.2
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Isn't upgrading to 2.5.2 an enhancement that we need to wait on
>> > before
>> > > we
>> > > > > finish some clean-up tasks?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > What all do you think we need to do before we start accepting
>> > > > enhancements?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks for the update and all the hard work, Jon.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:02 PM, zeo...@gmail.com <
>> zeo...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Sorry for the delay here - I pushed this out tonight (link
>> > > > > > <
>> https://github.com/apache/metron-bro-plugin-kafka/commits/master
>> > >,
>> > > > link
>> > > > > > <
>> > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=metron-bro-plugin-kafka.git
>> > > > > >).
>> > > > > > As of bro-pkg 1.1, I need to redo my `bro-pkg.meta` work to
>> support
>> > > the
>> > > > > > newly-added `external_depends`, and also upgrade to bro 2.5.2
>> > > (somewhat
>> > > > > > non-trivial due to the C++11 requirement, and new bro log
>> > > files/fields)
>> > > > > so
>> > > > > > we can use the bro package manager to install the plugin.
>> > Hopefully
>> > > I
>> > > > > can
>> > > > > > get this wrapped up soon so we can accept external PRs like this
>> > one
>> > > > > > <https://github.com/JonZeolla/metron-bro-plugin-kafka/pull/1>.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Jon
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:52 AM Nick Allen <n...@nickallen.org
>> >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Nice!  Looks good to me.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:35 AM zeo...@gmail.com <
>> > > zeo...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Okay, I took a stab at it this morning, can I get a double
>> > check
>> > > > > before
>> > > > > > > > pushing it out?  The latest commit would be opened as a PR.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> https://github.com/JonZeolla/metron-bro-plugin-kafka/tree/dev
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Jon
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 12:54 PM zeo...@gmail.com <
>> > > > zeo...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Good point, I can take that task re migrating the revision
>> > > > history
>> > > > > of
>> > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > folder.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Jon
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017, 12:14 Nick Allen <
>> n...@nickallen.org>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> Hi Jon -
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >> I agree with you on the approach.  We should first copy
>> > > > everything
>> > > > > > as
>> > > > > > > it
>> > > > > > > > >> is
>> > > > > > > > >> to the new repo.  We should maintain the revision history
>> > too.
>> > > > > I'm
>> > > > > > > sure
>> > > > > > > > >> there is a way to do it, but would have to research a
>> bit.
>> > > Then
>> > > > > we
>> > > > > > > > apply
>> > > > > > > > >> your changes on top of that.
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 1:36 AM, zeo...@gmail.com <
>> > > > > zeo...@gmail.com
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > >> > So, I've been working on METRON-813
>> > > > > > > > >> > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/METRON-813>
>> lately
>> > > > and I
>> > > > > > > have
>> > > > > > > > an
>> > > > > > > > >> > initial run at it ready to go here
>> > > > > > > > >> > <https://github.com/JonZeolla/metron-bro-plugin-kafka>
>> > > > > (squashed
>> > > > > > > > >> history,
>> > > > > > > > >> > see a better history there
>> > > > > > > > >> > <
>> > > > > > >
>> > > https://github.com/JonZeolla/metron-bro-plugin-kafka/commits/bro-pkg
>> > > > > > > > >> >).
>> > > > > > > > >> > Since the metron-bro-plugin-kafka repo is empty, I
>> can't
>> > > open
>> > > > a
>> > > > > PR
>> > > > > > > > >> against
>> > > > > > > > >> > it on GitHub for review.  Does anybody have a
>> suggestion
>> > > > > regarding
>> > > > > > > how
>> > > > > > > > >> to
>> > > > > > > > >> > move forward?  I see two options:
>> > > > > > > > >> > 1. I make the initial commit a direct copy of the
>> > > > > bro-plugin-kafka
>> > > > > > > > >> folder
>> > > > > > > > >> > <https://github.com/apache/metron/tree/master/metron-
>> > > > > > > > >> > sensors/bro-plugin-kafka>
>> > > > > > > > >> > (I believe this would require a new JIRA for a direct
>> > copy),
>> > > > and
>> > > > > > > then
>> > > > > > > > >> open
>> > > > > > > > >> > a PR for the METRON-813 changes to get reviewed via the
>> > > normal
>> > > > > > > > process.
>> > > > > > > > >> > 2. I make the initial commit the result of METRON-813,
>> but
>> > > > > review
>> > > > > > > > occurs
>> > > > > > > > >> > via the mailing list and using my fork.
>> > > > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > > > >> > I prefer 1, but wanted to put it up for discussion.
>> Once
>> > we
>> > > > > > decide
>> > > > > > > on
>> > > > > > > > >> the
>> > > > > > > > >> > correct approach then I would be happy to put together
>> a
>> > > > testing
>> > > > > > > plan
>> > > > > > > > >> for
>> > > > > > > > >> > the PR as well.
>> > > > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > > > >> > Just to clarify, the general roadmap for getting this
>> used
>> > > in
>> > > > > > > > >> apache/metron
>> > > > > > > > >> > is:
>> > > > > > > > >> > 1.  Create a bro package in
>> apache/metron-bro-plugin-kafka
>> > > > > > > > >> > 2.  Update the ansible bro setup
>> > > > > > > > >> > <https://github.com/apache/metron/tree/master/metron-
>> > > > > > > > >> > deployment/roles/bro/tasks>
>> > > > > > > > >> > to install/configure bro-pkg (`pip install bro-pkg &&
>> > > bro-pkg
>> > > > > > > > >> autoconfig`)
>> > > > > > > > >> > and use it to install the
>> apache/metron-bro-plugin-kafka
>> > > > > package.
>> > > > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > > > >> > I will also be adding this to the official bro package
>> > > manager
>> > > > > > > > >> > <https://github.com/bro/packages>, but out of an
>> > abundance
>> > > of
>> > > > > > > > caution I
>> > > > > > > > >> > plan to setup ansible to pull the package directly from
>> > the
>> > > > > > > > >> > apache/metron-bro-plugin-kafka using bro-pkg instead of
>> > > going
>> > > > > > > through
>> > > > > > > > >> the
>> > > > > > > > >> > bro/packages package source (which removes the
>> > bro/packages
>> > > > > > > > dependency).
>> > > > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > > > >> > Feedback on all of the above is welcome.
>> > > > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > > > >> > Jon
>> > > > > > > > >> > --
>> > > > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > > > >> > Jon
>> > > > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Jon
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Jon
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Jon
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > >
>> > > > Jon
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Jon
>> >
>>
> --
>
> Jon
>
-- 

Jon

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