To me Metron is big and broad in the scope of technology required to get it 
running. If things were more modular that would go a long way to reducing the 
learning curve or at least putting it into smaller bites (and it might 
encourage more people to get involved).

If the UI were an add-on module in another project, it would have made it 
easier for me and it could also encourage my hypothetical buddy who is a web 
developer expert to get involved since he could focus on the web-ui module 
instead of trying to tackle all the other pieces that are probably not part of 
his bailiwick.

Stellar is very intriguing, maybe that is not unique to Metron? The 
architecture of Metron with respect to parsing, enriching, etc., makes a lot of 
sense to anyone I talk with. These two aspects of Metron seem like standout 
examples that make for a powerful platform to develop on.

Thanks for continuing this discussion,

Tom.


On 2020-04-08 15:32:46-07:00 Casey Stella wrote:

As far as I know there is no minimum bar of development activity to keep a 
project open.  I think we would all be grateful for any investment that you or 
your organization would want to make.
It also occurs to me that your observation is absolutely spot on: we have a LOT 
of moving parts.
I see some deficiencies here:

  *   We depend on a lot of the various hadoop ecosystem projects and they have 
to work together very precisely:
     *   This makes for a system that is hard to install.
     *   This also makes for a system which is hard to tune/manage
  *   We have a large surface area of coverage
     *   We have an installer, backend system and front-end UI, which stretches 
our developers a bit thin, especially since there isn't even interest in those 
systems

Perhaps a reconsideration of the scope and technologies that we use would be 
merited?  If we were to decide to, for instance:

  *   Consolidate scope: focus on a viable backend/API rather than a UI
  *   Consolidate technology: reposition ourselves on top of Spark as a 
consolidated streaming/batch system
  *   Make SQL our external interface: write out to parquet + the Hive 
metastore and let users pin up presto tables or hive tables as they see fit

This might reduce some of our surface area and make it more viable to get 
started?
Anyway, just some thoughts.
Casey

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 6:20 PM Yerex, Tom 
<tom.ye...@ubc.ca<mailto:tom.ye...@ubc.ca>> wrote:
Hi Casey,

I'm new here and new to contributing to an open source project. Thus far my 
contribution has been questions, however the steep learning curve has had me 
working to understand all the moving parts for the last 18 months and I see 
that as a big investment by my organization.

What is a level that would be viable?

If my organization were to contribute I don't know that it would be soon enough 
or at the volume that is recognized as viable, which is why I ask the question.


On 2020-04-08 15:05:51-07:00 Casey Stella wrote:

Hi all,

When composing the board report today, I realized that we have effectively
had no development in the last quarter on this project.  Please be aware
that I say this without a shred of blame or judgement (especially so
considering I have not contributed in a long time).  That being said, I
would like to pose the question to the community:

Do we feel that this project is viable?  If so, how are we going to spur
new contributions?  If not, then should we begin the process to fold the
project?


Best,

Casey

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