This is fantastic.  Great job, Matt 

29.01.2017, 22:13, "Matt Foley" <[email protected]>:
> Hi all, please take a look at 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-metron/pull/429
> I think all major issues are resolved, as best I can tell from an eyeball 
> scan of the result.
> Thanks,
> --Matt
>
> On 1/19/17, 12:06 PM, "Justin Leet" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Yeah, this looks like a huge leap forward, and I'm thrilled that you made
>     such good progress. Great job, Matt.
>
>     On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Michael Miklavcic <
>     [email protected]> wrote:
>
>     > Agreed! Matt, thanks for taking this on and glad I could help.
>     >
>     > M
>     >
>     > On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Casey Stella <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>     >
>     > > Oh wow, I really like the looks of that. I was skeptical before, but 
> if
>     > > you got that far in a couple of days, I think this is a worth-while
>     > > endeavor! Thanks so much Matt!
>     > >
>     > > Casey
>     > >
>     > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Matt Foley <[email protected]> wrote:
>     > >
>     > > > Thanks, Jon! I’m working on characterizing exactly how to fix the 
> two
>     > > > main issues. I think I’ve got a script that will auto-fix the
>     > > > triple-backtick problem. The bullet list problem will require
>     > > > hand-editing, so I want to make sure I’ve got the right 
> recommendation.
>     > > >
>     > > > The larger issue is going thru and making the doc content better and
>     > more
>     > > > usable.
>     > > > But that can occur over time, and will be motivated by having the 
> book
>     > > > there to gripe about :-)
>     > > >
>     > > > On 1/19/17, 9:05 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>     > > >
>     > > > Looking at the screenshot, that would be an incredible improvement
>     > on
>     > > > what
>     > > > we currently have. I'd be happy to help out with any markdown
>     > > > modifications and documentation cleanup, if necessary, to fix the
>     > > > problems
>     > > > you outlined above.
>     > > >
>     > > > Jon
>     > > >
>     > > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 11:22 AM Matt Foley <[email protected]>
>     > > wrote:
>     > > >
>     > > > > Sorry, I forgot text-only messages won’t accept attachments.
>     > > Please
>     > > > see
>     > > > >
>     > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/
>     > > > 12848335/Metron-book-screenshot.png
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Thanks,
>     > > > > --Matt
>     > > > >
>     > > > >
>     > > > > On 1/19/17, 6:03 AM, "Otto Fowler" <[email protected]>
>     > > wrote:
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Not seeing the attachment, is it attached to a jira?
>     > > > >
>     > > > >
>     > > > > On January 19, 2017 at 04:19:02, Matt Foley (
>     > [email protected])
>     > > > wrote:
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Here’s a screen shot, attached :-)
>     > > > >
>     > > > > On 1/19/17, 1:04 AM, "Matt Foley" <[email protected]> wrote:
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Hi all,
>     > > > > I’ve put together a prototype doc book, along the lines we
>     > > > discussed,
>     > > > > and
>     > > > > it looks pretty worthwhile.
>     > > > > Many thanks to Mike M. who whipped the pom.xml file into
>     > shape,
>     > > > and
>     > > > > helped
>     > > > > me find the right site.xml file to imitate.
>     > > > >
>     > > > > If you’re interested, please do a single-branch clone as
>     > > follows:
>     > > > > git clone --single-branch -b METRON-660
>     > > > > https://github.com/mattf-horton/incubator-metron.git
>     > > [clonename]
>     > > > > (or whatever git command pleases you :-)
>     > > > >
>     > > > > In this branch, there’s a new top-level subdirectory named
>     > > > site-book/.
>     > > > > This
>     > > > > is not necessarily how we want to integrate stuff, it was
>     > just
>     > > > > convenient
>     > > > > to do it separate from the existing site/ directory for now.
>     > To
>     > > > build
>     > > > > the
>     > > > > book, do these three commands:
>     > > > > cd site-book/
>     > > > > bin/generate-md.sh #This gathers all the *.md files into
>     > > > > site-book/src/site/markdown/**, and generates the menu tree
>     > > into
>     > > > > site-book/src/site/site.xml
>     > > > > mvn clean site:site #This builds the book with the maven site
>     > > > plugin
>     > > > > and
>     > > > > doxia-markdown plugin
>     > > > >
>     > > > > If both those steps are successful, you can then go to a
>     > > browser
>     > > > and
>     > > > > open
>     > > > >
>     > > > > file:///Users/yourname/yourpath/clonename/site-book/
>     > > > target/site/index.html
>     > > > > and see the book, with the nav menu on the LHS.
>     > > > > It’s important to note that a very usable (not perfect) nav
>     > > > hierarchy
>     > > > > has
>     > > > > been auto-generated; this is not hardwired nor hand-edited.
>     > > > > I do plan to add some overrides that allow individual items
>     > in
>     > > > the
>     > > > > menu to
>     > > > > be tweaked.
>     > > > >
>     > > > > While it already looks fairly nice, and clearly illustrates
>     > the
>     > > > value
>     > > > > of
>     > > > > building a book, there are two glaring issues.
>     > > > > • Doxia-markdown doesn’t process the triple back-tick (```)
>     > the
>     > > > same
>     > > > > way as
>     > > > > Github Markdown. It seems to color-code it as <code>, but
>     > > doesn’t
>     > > > > preserve
>     > > > > line breaks, which is really bad.
>     > > > > • Similarly, it only processes bullet lists in isolation, and
>     > > it
>     > > > > doesn’t
>     > > > > correctly combine bullet lists subordinate to a numbered
>     > list.
>     > > > >
>     > > > > The upshot is that
>     > > > > • both code and bullet lists often lose their linebreaks, and
>     > > get
>     > > > > mushed
>     > > > > into run-on paragraphs, usually combined with the preceding
>     > > > paragraph,
>     > > > > and
>     > > > > • bullet lists interrupt numbered lists and make them start
>     > > over
>     > > > at #1.
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Perhaps 80-90% of these issues can be fixed by editing the
>     > > > markdown
>     > > > > files
>     > > > > to put blank lines around the list formats. I started doing
>     > > > this, but I
>     > > > > didn’t want to obscure the proto by editing tons of .md
>     > files.
>     > > > As of
>     > > > > this
>     > > > > proto, only the half dozen actually broken files (that caused
>     > > > maven
>     > > > > site
>     > > > > build errors) have been fixed.
>     > > > > The other 10-20% will just require simplification of the
>     > > > markdown used,
>     > > > > unless we can get an updated version of the plugins.
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Anyway, please take a look and share your thoughts.
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Thanks,
>     > > > > --Matt
>     > > > >
>     > > > >
>     > > > > On 1/16/17, 1:02 PM, "Michael Miklavcic" <
>     > > > [email protected]>
>     > > > > wrote:
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Hey Matt, feel free to ping me.
>     > > > >
>     > > > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Matt Foley <
>     > [email protected]>
>     > > > wrote:
>     > > > >
>     > > > > > I looked into the Falcon website and doxia over the
>     > weekend,
>     > > > and I’m
>     > > > > > convinced that using the doxia-markdown plugin should make
>     > it
>     > > > dirt
>     > > > > simple
>     > > > > > to do what’s been discussed in this thread, with no
>     > overhead
>     > > > on the
>     > > > > part
>     > > > > of
>     > > > > > people writing the README.md files.
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > I fiddled with trying to do a POC, and unfortunately
>     > > concluded
>     > > > > (again)
>     > > > > > that I don’t really know maven very well :-)
>     > > > > > Are there any maven experts out there who would be willing
>     > to
>     > > > give me
>     > > > > some
>     > > > > > pointers (offline) on how to make use of this apparently
>     > > > simple maven
>     > > > > > plug-in?
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > I can do the bit of scripting needed to gather the docs.
>     > I’ve
>     > > > opened
>     > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/METRON-660 with some
>     > > > > sub-tasks for
>     > > > > > this work.
>     > > > > > --Matt
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > On 1/13/17, 12:04 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]
>     > >
>     > > > wrote:
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > +1 on any improvement to documentation and more
>     > consistency.
>     > > > At this
>     > > > > > point, I think getting rid of or hiding some of the pages
>     > on
>     > > > the wiki
>     > > > > > (at
>     > > > > > least for the short term) would be better than leaving them
>     > > > around
>     > > > > > because
>     > > > > > there's a lot of misinformation.
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > Jon
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 10:13 AM Nick Allen <
>     > > > [email protected]>
>     > > > > > wrote:
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > > +1 I think it is sorely needed.
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > If we can come up with a really slick solution like
>     > Spark,
>     > > > then
>     > > > > > great. I am
>     > > > > > > also not against a half-baked solution that can later
>     > > evolve
>     > > > into
>     > > > > > something
>     > > > > > > else. For example, create an index README.md that links
>     > > > together
>     > > > > > all the
>     > > > > > > existing READMEs and run Pandoc on it. Not ideal, but way
>     > > > better
>     > > > > > than what
>     > > > > > > we have.
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Otto Fowler <
>     > > > > > [email protected]>
>     > > > > > > wrote:
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > I think something that does what you have laid out
>     > here,
>     > > no
>     > > > > matter
>     > > > > > the
>     > > > > > > > implementation details would be ideal
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > On January 12, 2017 at 18:05:24, Matt Foley (
>     > > > [email protected])
>     > > > > > wrote:
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > We currently have three forms of documentation, with
>     > the
>     > > > > following
>     > > > > > > > advantages and disadvantages:
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > || Docs || Pro || Con ||
>     > > > > > > > | CWiki |
>     > > > > > > > Easy to edit, no special tools required, don't have to
>     > > be a
>     > > > > > developer to
>     > > > > > > > contribute, google and wiki search |
>     > > > > > > > Not versioned, no review process, distant from the
>     > code,
>     > > > obsolete
>     > > > > > content
>     > > > > > > > tends to accumulate |
>     > > > > > > > | Site |
>     > > > > > > > Versioned and reviewed, only committers can edit,
>     > google
>     > > > search |
>     > > > > > > > Yet another arcane toolset must be learned, only web
>     > > > programmers
>     > > > > > feel
>     > > > > > > > comfortable contributing, "asf-site" branch not related
>     > > to
>     > > > code
>     > > > > > versions,
>     > > > > > > > distant from the code, tends to go obsolete due to
>     > > > > non-maintenance
>     > > > > > |
>     > > > > > > > | README.md |
>     > > > > > > > Versioned and reviewed, only committers can edit, tied
>     > to
>     > > > code
>     > > > > > versions,
>     > > > > > > > highly local to the code being documented |
>     > > > > > > > Non-developers don't know about them, may be scared by
>     > > > github,
>     > > > > poor
>     > > > > > > scoring
>     > > > > > > > in google search, no high-level presentation |
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > Various discussion threads indicate the developer
>     > > > community likes
>     > > > > > > > README-based docs, and it's easy to see why from the
>     > > > above. I
>     > > > > > propose
>     > > > > > > this
>     > > > > > > > extension to the README-based documentation, to address
>     > > > their
>     > > > > > > > disadvantages:
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > 1. Produce a script that gathers the README.md files
>     > from
>     > > > all
>     > > > > code
>     > > > > > > > subdirectories into a hierarchical list. The script
>     > would
>     > > > have an
>     > > > > > > exclusion
>     > > > > > > > list for non-user-content, which at this point would
>     > > > consist of
>     > > > > > [site/*,
>     > > > > > > > build_utils/*]. The hierarchy would be sorted
>     > > depth-first.
>     > > > The
>     > > > > > resulting
>     > > > > > > > hierarchical list at this time (with six added README
>     > > > files to
>     > > > > > complete
>     > > > > > > the
>     > > > > > > > hierarchy) would be:
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > ./README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-analytics/README.md <== (need file here)
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-analytics/metron-maas-service/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-analytics/metron-profiler/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-analytics/metron-profiler-client/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-analytics/metron-statistics/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/amazon-ec2/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/packaging/README.md <== (need file
>     > > > here)
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/packaging/ambari/README.md <==
>     > (need
>     > > > file
>     > > > > > here)
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/packaging/
>     > > > docker/ansible-docker/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/packaging/
>     > > docker/rpm-docker/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/packer-build/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/roles/ <== (need file here)
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/roles/kibana/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/roles/monit/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/roles/opentaxii/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/roles/pcap_replay/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/roles/sensor-test-mode/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/vagrant/README.md <== (need file
>     > > here)
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/vagrant/codelab-platform/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/vagrant/
>     > > fastcapa-test-platform/README.
>     > > > md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/vagrant/
>     > full-dev-platform/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-deployment/vagrant/
>     > quick-dev-platform/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-platform/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-platform/metron-api/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-platform/metron-common/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-platform/metron-data-management/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-platform/metron-enrichment/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-platform/metron-indexing/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-platform/metron-management/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-platform/metron-parsers/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-platform/metron-pcap-backend/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-sensors/README.md <== (need file here)
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-sensors/fastcapa/README.md
>     > > > > > > > ./metron-sensors/pycapa/README.md
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > 2. Arrange to run this script as part of the build
>     > > > process, and
>     > > > > > commit
>     > > > > > > the
>     > > > > > > > resulting hierarchy list to someplace in the versioned
>     > > and
>     > > > > branched
>     > > > > > > ./site/
>     > > > > > > > subdirectory.
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > 3. Produce a "doc reader" web page that takes in this
>     > > > hierarchy
>     > > > > of
>     > > > > > .md
>     > > > > > > > pages, and presents a LHS doc tree of links, and a main
>     > > > display
>     > > > > > area for
>     > > > > > > a
>     > > > > > > > currently selected file. If we want to get fancy, this
>     > > > page would
>     > > > > > also
>     > > > > > > > provide: (a) telescoping (collapse/expand) of the doc
>     > > > tree; (b)
>     > > > > > floating
>     > > > > > > > next/prev/up/home buttons in the display area.
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > #4. Add to this web page a pull-down menu that selects
>     > > > among all
>     > > > > > the
>     > > > > > > > release versions of Metron, and (if not running in the
>     > > > Apache
>     > > > > > site) a
>     > > > > > > > SNAPSHOT version for the current filesystem version
>     > (for
>     > > > > developer
>     > > > > > > > preview). Let it re-write the file paths per release
>     > > > version to
>     > > > > the
>     > > > > > > proper
>     > > > > > > > release tag in github. This web page will therefore be
>     > > > > > > version-independent.
>     > > > > > > > Put it in the asf-site branch of the Apache site, as
>     > the
>     > > > new
>     > > > > "docs"
>     > > > > > > > sub-site from the home web page. Update the list of
>     > > > releases at
>     > > > > > each
>     > > > > > > > release, or if we want to get fancy, teach it to read
>     > the
>     > > > release
>     > > > > > tags
>     > > > > > > from
>     > > > > > > > github.
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > 5. As part of the release process, the release manager
>     > > (a)
>     > > > > assures
>     > > > > > the
>     > > > > > > > release is tagged in github with a consistent naming
>     > > > convention,
>     > > > > > and (b)
>     > > > > > > > submits the new hierarchy of links to google search
>     > > > (there's an
>     > > > > > api for
>     > > > > > > > that).
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > 6. Deprecate the use of cwiki for anything but
>     > long-lived
>     > > > > > > > demonstrations/tutorials that are unlikely to go
>     > > obsolete.
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > Do folks feel this would be a good contribution to the
>     > > > > visibility,
>     > > > > > > > timeliness, and usability of our docs?
>     > > > > > > > Is this an adequate solution for the current problems?
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > Thanks,
>     > > > > > > > --Matt
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > --
>     > > > > > > Nick Allen <[email protected]>
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > --
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > Jon
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Thank you,

James Sirota
PPMC- Apache Metron (Incubating)
jsirota AT apache DOT org

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