BTW, Sangjin, did you get any response from [EMAIL PROTECTED] for your new
account?  If you didn't get one, please let me know.

2008-03-06 (목), 10:39 -0500, Alex Karasulu 쓰시길:
> This is your specific situation right?  I don't want to leave you hanging
> but we're really jumping head over heels to make one user comfortable.  I
> think we paved the road for you to be able to achieve what you need by
> granting you karma to work directly on this code base.  We're open but need
> you to provide a little bit of leeway so we can get everyone on the same
> base eventually.  This move to M2 is a small step in that direction and will
> have all the Asyncweb modules which include this client on the same MINA
> dependency.
> 
> See if you can push back a little to convince your employer of the
> benefits.  At the end of the day, aligning this this community will be as
> good for you and your employer as it will be for all of us.  Let's not be
> myopic and loose out on gains in the future.  Can you try to push this for
> the project?
> 
> Alex
> 
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:59 AM, Sangjin Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > That might be a problem for us...  We're about to use AHC (which is based
> > on
> > mina 1.1.x) in a production environment.  Switching to mina 2.0 now would
> > set us back in terms of invested time (testing, regression, etc.)...  If
> > at
> > all possible, it would be great if we could support the current AHC as is,
> > while continuing the work on rewriting the client.  Thoughts?
> > Regards,
> > Sangjin
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Alex Karasulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > You might though want to use MINA 2.0 the move is not that big and it
> > > might
> > > be the best option.
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Sangjin Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK, thanks...  I like the suggestion.  +1 from me. :)
> > > > Sangjin
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Mike Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sangjin Lee wrote:
> > > > > > That sounds like a good idea.  Just so I understand, your proposal
> > > is
> > > > to
> > > > > > move the existing AHC in the Geronimo sandbox based on mina
> > 1.1.xover
> > > > > to
> > > > > > asyncweb under a branch and keep up the maintenance and support on
> > > it,
> > > > > > right?
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Sangjin
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, that's exactly what I'm suggesting.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Mike Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Sangjin Lee wrote:
> > > > > >>> I would also like to see asyncweb make progress as quickly as
> > > > > possible,
> > > > > >> and
> > > > > >>> I'd like to contribute to that effect as well.  As Mike pointed
> > > out
> > > > in
> > > > > a
> > > > > >>> different thread, however, there are some challenges to this.
> > >  It's
> > > > > >> looking
> > > > > >>> more likely that this is not going to be a simple "merge" of
> > code
> > > > but
> > > > > >>> substantial rework.  I think part of it stems from the fact that
> > > the
> > > > > old
> > > > > >> AHC
> > > > > >>> relies on its own codec (based on mina 1.1.x) and the asyncweb
> > > > already
> > > > > >> has a
> > > > > >>> good codec that's completely different from AHC's.
> > > > > >>> We do have an immediate need to use AHC *now*, and critical bug
> > > > fixes
> > > > > >> need
> > > > > >>> to happen, as we're using it right now.  But we're making a
> > > > conscious
> > > > > >> effort
> > > > > >>> to limit the changes to mostly bug fixes, and we're trying to
> > > > > propagate
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >>> changes to asyncweb whenever it is applicable.  Those are the
> > > things
> > > > > >> we're
> > > > > >>> doing (or trying to do) to make sure things don't diverge or get
> > > out
> > > > > of
> > > > > >>> hand.
> > > > > >> Why don't we put AHC in a branch in the AsyncWeb Subversion
> > > > repository?
> > > > > >>  This way AHC can continue using its own codec and we can support
> > > and
> > > > > >> maintain it without going through a lot of work.  Once it gets
> > > > > >> stabilized we could even cut a release.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> In the mean time, we can continue working toward a revised "2.0"
> > > > client
> > > > > >> that uses the AsyncWeb codec.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> WDYT?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> -Mike
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Alex Karasulu <
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> I am in agreement as well.  I would like to see this merge
> > happen
> > > > > >> quickly
> > > > > >>>> so
> > > > > >>>> the users see progress and there's no longer any need to keep
> > the
> > > G
> > > > > >> branch
> > > > > >>>> alive.  Someone said to me you need to get cookin in the
> > kitchen
> > > > when
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >>>> guests arrive :).  Then we can just start releasing some
> > > milestones
> > > > > >> that
> > > > > >>>> people can use and we can track/patch etc.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> It's nice now that MINA 2.0-m1 is out.  This means we can
> > release
> > > > an
> > > > > >>>> Asyncweb milestone as a whole.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Also another thing I want people to think about is that this
> > > > project
> > > > > is
> > > > > >>>> one
> > > > > >>>> unit rather than just a client.  There's a server in there  too
> > > and
> > > > > we
> > > > > >> can
> > > > > >>>> release it together.  The community around this is coming
> > > together
> > > > > fast
> > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > >>>> that's just great which means there's a good potential for
> > > > graduating
> > > > > >> this
> > > > > >>>> project eventually.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> These are my hopes for Asyncweb.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Alex
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Jeff Genender <
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> I agree with Alan...I understood that the G version was going
> > > away
> > > > > now
> > > > > >>>>> that we built community over here on this.  Comments?
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Jeff
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Alan Cabrera wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>> On Mar 1, 2008, at 8:12 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> AsyncHttpClient was changed w/ the last checkin on 2/26 and
> > > now
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>>>>> build is broken.
> > > > > >>>>>> I looked at the actual changes.  I'm just trying to grok the
> > > > > changes
> > > > > >>>>>> because I realize that I am new here.  It seems that the
> > "old"
> > > > > >>>>>> AsyncHttpClient is still evolving?  How does this fit in with
> > > the
> > > > > >>>> plans
> > > > > >>>>>> for the "old" AsyncHttpClient, the "new" Geronimo
> > > > AsyncHttpClient,
> > > > > >> and
> > > > > >>>>>> the new API that's currently in discussion?
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> I had thought, maybe naively, that we were going to roll the
> > > > "old"
> > > > > >> two
> > > > > >>>>>> into the new one.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Regards,
> > > > > >>>>>> Alan
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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