Hi,
this is pretty well summarized.
I would had some point though : as soon as we freeze the API, we are
going to live with it for months, may be years.
If we differ those importants API modifications, we will also get stuck
with MINA 2 and an increasing number of users, which will be reluctant
to switch to MINA 3. Mina is pretty young, so this is also something we
should consider, as we gain new users every day (see
http://people.apache.org/~vgritsenko/stats/projects/mina.html#Downloads-N1008F).
Maarten Bosteels wrote:
Hello,
I do agree with everyone who says "anyone using a pre-release is taking a
risk"
but I also I agree with Trustin that we should try to avoid hurting our
users.
In principle: yes, just do these radical changes in 2.0 since we haven't
gone to RC yet.
BUT in practice it's a trade-off:
* how much trouble would we inflict on users that are already using MINA 2.0
* how much trouble would it cause us to maintain 2.0 and 3.0
I guess we can stop supporting 1.x as soon as 2.0 GA is released ?
AFAICS, work on mina 2.0 started in October 2006 or maybe even earlier
and a new versioning scheme was defined in November 2006. [1] and [2]
I always thought the idea was of the milestones was "release early, release
often"
but 17 months later we have released only one milestone
(note that I am not blaming anyone for this, except myself for not helping
out more).
Recently Trustin wrote [3] about the possibility to reach 2.0 RC1 in the
near future.
I think we should go for it because :
* it would please a lot of users
* supporting them might be easier when we have an RC (or a GA)
* we would get more feedback from people using 2.0
* which could lead to more ideas for improving 3.0
* less time pressure when we can work on these 'big changes" in 3.0
[1] http://markmail.org/message/iup4sfwyecalsdyd
[2] http://markmail.org/message/hymzddmoteiatcwq
[3] http://www.nabble.com/Issues-to-resolve-for-2.0.0-(GA)-td16872513.html
regards,
Maarten
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Kevin Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:18 AM, "이희승 (Trustin Lee) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
..... However, I
realized it can be somewhat irresponsible action to our users who
already are using MINA 2 in their production system. If they are going
to spend many sleepless nights because of the radical changes, we're
likely to lose a part of our precious community.
Frankly, anyone using a pre-release product in their production code
is accepting some risk of it changing, whether they know it or not. I
wouldn't worry about it.
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cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
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