PC in your pocket is what developers want, but is that what an OEM/Service Provider's customers want? These are two completely separate markets. Obviously the developer tools/SDK need to cater to the former, but if the final environment was one that targeted developers, how many devices/copies of software would sell?
The biz model of course depends on the entity that is going to face the customers. Clayne ________________________________ From: Johnny Kewl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:10 AM To: Javier Gálvez Guerrero; Robison, Clayne B Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Moblin Dev] Hello - Java Plan I'm not too interested in the whole flex thing to be honest... I'm very interested in the whole idea of a true PC in your pocket... not another symbian scam. ie some system where developers have to pay to put apps onto a device, in the name of quality control. I think it all comes down to that... Intel is doing a good thing here and laying a foundation, but I think for developers to really get interested they need to know if the end product is going to be another cell phone scheme, or its going to behave on the PC model... its an open OS, *in* the device. Linux is not the OS here... its more like the firmware... what is the OS going to be? Is there a device supplier that intends flogging their device on a PC type model, even if they selling the OS with it. ie once the person has bought the device... they are truely free to put whatever they want on it. Otherwise are there any hardware suppliers that are going to sell these devices as... "a linux box", do your own thing? Linux may be free... but that doesnt mean linux inside one of these box's is free. I think is has to be that way... otherwise we wait for microsoft to make a small laptop and stick a cell phone card in it... at least then its yours. How does Harmony (Intel is in there as well) fit into this... as a free Java? This should be a frenzy... it isnt... so that means developers are sitting back with a wait and see attitude... why is that? People are not stupid anymore... either this is a PC in your pocket... or I think people will just wait for laptops to get smaller, jam a cell phone card into it. I think a hardware vendor that sold one of these cool devices with an OS... and its then as free as a PC... would kill it. Another cell phone... we so bored with no cool applications in that biz model... I dont even want a new cell phone. What is the biz model? thats what I think everyone want to know? Android was open... yeah right... if not... this is as dead as Android.... PC in your Pocket.... thats what everyone wants ;) Nice devices ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: Javier Gálvez Guerrero<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Robison, Clayne B<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Johnny Kewl<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Moblin Dev] Hello - Java Plan Isn't Adobe AIR a runtime intended just for HTML/JavaScript/AJAX/... web applications? What has AIR to do with standard JRE (J2SE)? Isn't J2SE JRE (1.6) integrated in Ubuntu MID Edition allowing to launch any J2SE application? If not, wouldn't it be as easy as in a desktop environment to install the JRE? Regards, Javi 2008/8/19 Robison, Clayne B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Check out Adobe AIR. Clayne -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] On Behalf Of Johnny Kewl Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:08 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [Moblin Dev] Hello - Java Plan Hello MobLin, Newbie... Busy appraising... and wondering what the Java policy for MobLin is... I imagine there are many considerations, additional API needed, possibly licensing issues. So I'm wondering if there are any sub projects planned or on the go for a JRE on MobLin, whether the underlying technology is considered strong enuf for a JRE... whether its an option at all? Perhaps Sun is involved, perhaps there is another OS project on the go? Or it all works already and I can throw JRE 6 at it and enjoy ;) ps: does it have to be ubuntu, would Debian be ok for all the dev tools? Devices in the video promo certainly look terrific... Perhaps Java is only going to be supplied by some and not others? ? Thanks... _______________________________________________ dev mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://www.moblin.org/mailman/listinfo/dev _______________________________________________ dev mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://www.moblin.org/mailman/listinfo/dev _______________________________________________ dev mailing list [email protected] https://www.moblin.org/mailman/listinfo/dev
