9707            nor     Und     Mobl    [email protected]   NEW     
        Add an advanced configuration for bluetooth
9706    nor     Und     Othe    [email protected]   NEW             
bluetooth device
not visible for 2 minutes

bugs filed, if you think i can help in anyway just let me know.

Thanks.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Richards, Nicholas E
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, please. File bugs for lots of things. If it's a design issue then please 
> assign it to me rather than the default assignee.
>
> Nick
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>>Of Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata
>>Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:30 PM
>>To: Deng, Ying An
>>Cc: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [Moblin Dev] Bluetooth panel - make device visible
>>
>>I can file that bug...
>>
>>BTW, at least in my tests, the 2 minute delay didn't work, should i file
>>2 bugs?
>>
>>On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Deng, Ying An <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>> I agree.. dear Bill, could you file a bug on that? That should help
>>improve the user experience of Moblin.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Best Regards,
>>> DengYingAn
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>>Of Bill Filler
>>> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:05 AM
>>> To: Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata
>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Moblin Dev] Bluetooth panel - make device visible
>>>
>>> I'm all for Bluetooth just working automagically. However that is just
>>> not the case currently (in Moblin or gnome). To send files via
>>Bluetooth
>>> a "knowledgable" user has to do the following three things, all from
>>> different UI's
>>> 1) use Moblin bluetooth applet to pair with other device
>>> 2) run bluetooth-properties UI to make their device discoverable
>>> (assuming most people won't meet the 2 minute requirement for
>>> discoverability which no one even knows about)
>>> 3) install/run gnome-user-share and run gnome-file-share-properties to
>>> configure file sharing/receiving files over Bluetooth
>>>
>>> Yikes. Try it. It's not at all intuitive. I agree with Leonardo -
>>> Moblin's Bluetooth UI could really improve matters. It should be the
>>> only place a user needs to go to configure these options. Perhaps an
>>> "Advanced.." button or tab that lets you toggle visibility and launch
>>> the file sharing dialog? A typical user is not going to be able to
>>> figure it out as it's currently implemented.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata wrote:
>>>>>> When you open the Bluetooth panel and Bluetooth is switched on I
>>>>>>
>>>>> believe the device automatically becomes visible for 2 minutes. We
>>>>> specifically didn't want to add a toggle to control this setting as
>>it's
>>>>> too easy for users to get into a confusing state. However our
>>Bluetooth
>>>>> experts told us that it would take up too much power to be visible
>>the
>>>>> whole time that Bluetooth was on.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure if it works like you said, at least didn't worked this
>>>>> way in my tests. But i guess this isn't a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it doesn't work, this is a problem. Please open a bug and we'll
>>fix
>>>> it as it's not performing to design.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Think about this case, 2 guys want to share files using their
>>>>> bluetooths, both laptops use moblin as default system and when they
>>>>> activate their bluetooth, they cannot see each other. Maybe this
>>>>> function to make the device visible could be an "expert
>>configuration
>>>>> function", not easy as a chekbox, and not hard as a command line.
>>got
>>>>> my point?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What I'm saying with the design above is that yes, if they both
>>>> activate their bluetooth - it should work 'automagically' without
>>>> anyone needing to care.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I know this uses a lot of battery, but in some cases user wants to
>>>>> make their computer visible.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In those cases, if they visit the Bluetooth panel or an active
>>>> Bluetooth context it should 'just work'. We spend a lot of time
>>trying
>>>> to be clever so stuff 'just works' without exposing options that can
>>>> allow the user to shoot themselves in the foot.
>>>>
>>>> Nick
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