So it is really another type of beast for file transportation.It's a shame that 
this won't work with Wagon, because that would mean that this can only be used 
as plugin and never as extension, right?So I'm ok with the maven-plugin 
(although it uses a weird package right now), but not with the patched 
fork.Forks can be a start for a lot of trouble (see Mark Strubergs mail about 
the osx-maven-plugin lately).If we start with such behavior, that's not a good 
sign. There's one bug in the release-plugin, which would help in your case 
(actually, it is one I've started to work on recently)the maven-release-plugin 
can't detect SNAPSHOTs defined as plugin dependency. Anyhow, I'm just 1 of the 
team, maybe others think otherwise. Robert > Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:10:53 
-0700
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [mojo-dev] Re: Intention to promote and release vfs-maven-plugin 
> beta 1 and its sub components
> 
> > I hope you meant vfs-maven-plugin when you said svn-maven-plugin...
> 
>    Sorry, typo
> 
> > So you forked the current commons-vfs, but did you patch it too? In not, why
> 
>    No I only fork commons-vfs's smb provider from commons-vfs's sandbox
>    I do provide a patch for it it at
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VFS-438.
>    my vfs-maven-plugin works directory with commons-vfs-2.0 ( core and
> all of its available providers )
> 
>    I would prefer not to shade it, since i may not work with VFS
> provider discovery.
> 
>    One compromise is to rename the codehaus's vfs-smb provider form
> org.apache.commns.vfs
>    to org.codehaus.mojo.vfs.  But I dont see it is logistically
> necessary ( best to document it )
> 
> 
> 
> > Is there a reason why you need is this fast?
> 
>    Yes, i am about to use it in production ( I need to release my
> internal project which depends on vfs-maven-plugin and its components
> ( including the forked smb provider )
> 
> > Is there a way to merge this with
> > http://mojo.codehaus.org/wagon-maven-plugin/  (I wasn't aware this was a
> > codehaus project)
> 
>    It not possible to merge with wagon-maven-plugin( I am the main
> maintainer of this w.m.p ) since the it heavily depends on maven local
> runtime
> 
>    my vfs-maven-plugin, is the attempt to replace wagon-maven-plugin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Robert Scholte <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I hope you meant vfs-maven-plugin when you said svn-maven-plugin...
> >
> > I've reread your original mail and just noticed a small misunderstanding.
> > So you forked the current commons-vfs, but did you patch it too? In not, why
> > not use the maven-shade-plugin.
> > Otherwise I'd prefer to wait for the first release of commons-vfs.
> > Is there a reason why you need is this fast?
> >
> > Is there a way to merge this with
> > http://mojo.codehaus.org/wagon-maven-plugin/  (I wasn't aware this was a
> > codehaus project)
> >
> > -Robert
> >
> > ps. my verdict is -0
> >> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:28:57 -0700
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> To: [email protected]
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [mojo-dev] Re: Intention to promote and release
> >> vfs-maven-plugin beta 1 and its sub components
> >>
> >> So what is the verdict here?, Is it ok to release my vfs-smb together
> >> with svn-maven-plugin at codehaus until commons-vfs promote it. Let's
> >> user test this out, that is why we call it beta.
> >> I dont see any logistic problem with this approach.
> >>
> >> and I do like the ldea to campaigning commons-vfs to accept it and I
> >> would volunteer to maintain it there. But that is another journey
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Robert Scholte <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Let me rephrase this a bit:
> >> > I think what happened to the tomcat-maven-plugin is a good thing: let
> >> > the
> >> > developers of the framework/webcontainer/tool/etc. maintain their own
> >> > Maven
> >> > plugin.
> >> > Most of the time you want to keep these in sync.
> >> > For instance: we're having quite some trouble to follow the pace of GWT.
> >> > To me your situation looks similar to the tomcat-situation.
> >> >
> >> > About the wagon-extra: I thought the vfs-project is about InputStreams
> >> > and
> >> > OutputStreams, just like the Wagon-project. But I can be wrong here.
> >> >
> >> > Robert
> >> >> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:55:15 +0200
> >> >> From: [email protected]
> >> >> To: [email protected]
> >> >> Subject: Re: [mojo-dev] Re: Intention to promote and release
> >> >> vfs-maven-plugin beta 1 and its sub components
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> > Are you suggesting me to move the entire vfs-maven-plugin to github?
> >> >> > I am not ready to go there yet, this is where I comfortable with for
> >> >> > years
> >> >> > and feedbacks and helps here are great.
> >> >>
> >> >> No. I was just saying that Mojo shouldn't be used just to get some jar
> >> >> to central. But it's a good place for a plugin that could be of
> >> >> interest for other people.
> >> >>
> >> >> /Anders
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -Dan
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Anders Hammar <[email protected]>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> I'm with Robert here. If you're just looking for some area to do
> >> >> >> releases from you should start your own Github account and use
> >> >> >> Sonatype OSSRH for syncing to central.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> /Anders
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Robert Scholte
> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >>> Hi Dan,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> shouldn't vfs be something like wagon-extra?
> >> >> >>> What is your idea what will happen once commons-vfs is released? I
> >> >> >>> cannot
> >> >> >>> imagine they'll make a maven-plugin as part of their release (that
> >> >> >>> would be
> >> >> >>> the first commons-project).
> >> >> >>> As you mentioned yourself: the packaging is now confusing, but that
> >> >> >>> all
> >> >> >>> depends on the future of this plugin.
> >> >> >>> IMO codehaus shouldn't be used as a kickoff area if you're sure
> >> >> >>> that
> >> >> >>> this is
> >> >> >>> not the final destination of the plugin.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Robert
> >> >> >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:35:58 -0700
> >> >> >>>> From: [email protected]
> >> >> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >> >> >>>> Subject: [mojo-dev] Re: Intention to promote and release
> >> >> >>>> vfs-maven-plugin
> >> >> >>>> beta 1 and its sub components
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> ping,
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Looks like no objection on proceeding to release vfs-smb at
> >> >> >>>> codehaus
> >> >> >>>> :-)
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> -D
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Dan Tran <[email protected]>
> >> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>> > Hello,
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>> > After a few months of testing internally, I would like to
> >> >> >>>> > proceed
> >> >> >>>> > with
> >> >> >>>> > the first beta release. However, I would like to open a
> >> >> >>>> > discussion
> >> >> >>>> > on
> >> >> >>>> > distribution of vfs-smb which is a fork from apacche's
> >> >> >>>> > commons-vfs's
> >> >> >>>> > sandbox. This provider passes all of the generic test suite (
> >> >> >>>> > except
> >> >> >>>> > 2 related to classloader, may related to osgi requirements ),
> >> >> >>>> > the
> >> >> >>>> > provider will not be release any time soon either.
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>> > So I would like release vfs-smb at codehaus, keep the same java
> >> >> >>>> > package name, until commns-vfs officially release it
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>> > Any objection for me do so, otherwise please provide alternative
> >> >> >>>> > solution
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>> > big thanks ahead
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>> > -Dan
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
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