Hi Marco:

Today, I searched for "mxnet conv" and clicked on the first link (Gluon
Neural Network Layers — mxnet documentation) and got a 404.
I suppose documents have different URLs under the new doc system? This may
explain drop in traffic.

Philip.

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:17 PM Marco de Abreu <marco.g.ab...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I checked the Google Analytics statistics and the launch of the new
> website reduced the traffic by over 80%:
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> (Please let me know if the image is not visible)
>
> How shall we handle this?
>
> Best regards,
> Marco
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 7:30 AM Zhao, Patric <patric.z...@intel.com>
> wrote:
>
>> For the install page [1], I suggest to add the selection of backend
>> DeepNumpy [2] which will be more clean.
>>
>> [1] http://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/index.html
>> [2] https://numpy.mxnet.io/#installation
>>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: kellen sunderland <kellen.sunderl...@gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 12:47 PM
>> > To: dev@mxnet.incubator.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: new website, docs code freeze
>> >
>> > New site looks good.  I do notice that a few tutorials from the old
>> site are
>> > missing (for example the TensorRT tutorial).  Any plans to bring them
>> back?
>> >
>> > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 10:04 AM Haibin Lin <haibin.lin....@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Another issue I found with the current website: the Sphinx object
>> > > inventory
>> > > <https://www.sphinx-
>> > doc.org/en/master/usage/extensions/intersphinx.htm
>> > > l> file https://mxnet.apache.org/objects.inv is missing. GluonNLP
>> > > relies on this file to link document across projects. Shall we add it
>> > > back?
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > > Haibin
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 2:04 AM Lieven Govaerts <l...@mobsol.be>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 06:28, Thomas DELTEIL
>> > > > <thomas.delte...@gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Thanks all for the feedback,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > We'll send an email next week with the list of missing features,
>> > > content
>> > > > > and bugs that we plan to fix.
>> > > > > We took the option of releasing early, with some features missing,
>> > > rather
>> > > > > than trying to be at feature parity with the old website before
>> > > launching
>> > > > > the website.
>> > > > > The reason why we decided to do that is two-fold:
>> > > > > - playing catch-up with docs in master introduce daily conflicts
>> > > > > that
>> > > > need
>> > > > > to be resolved and introduce opportunity for errors
>> > > > > - by releasing early, we can take advantage of the community
>> > > > contributions
>> > > > > in modifying whatever the community feels like a better way of
>> > > > > doing things.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > One of the goals of the new website was to disentangle the main
>> > > website,
>> > > > > now called "static_site" to the auto-generated docs. Now the
>> > > > > overall
>> > > site
>> > > > > is made of a main static site, with easy to modify content and
>> > > > > easy to understand architecture for anybody familiar with basic
>> > > > > html, and a collection of mini-websites for each language bindings
>> > > > > that can be
>> > > built
>> > > > in
>> > > > > isolation and that are self-contained. Actually the new CI jobs
>> > > > > builds
>> > > > all
>> > > > > of them in parallel independently.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > There is PLENTY of room for improvement, it would be great if the
>> > > > community
>> > > > > can help contribute to bring the new website at the same level of
>> > > content
>> > > > > richness as the old one, and then even further.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Missing features:
>> > > > > - As pointed by Haibin, the API docs do not have the full list of
>> > > > operators
>> > > > > and classes. There is a mix of auto-generated docs based on
>> > > > > packages,
>> > > and
>> > > > > some docs that are spelled out manually to improve the logical
>> > > > organization
>> > > > > of the package where there is a need. The drawback with manually
>> > > > > listed classes in a package is that it's very easy to miss some.
>> > > > > If someone
>> > > > wanted
>> > > > > to build a sanity check that would automatically detect which
>> > > > > classes
>> > > are
>> > > > > not in the documentation, or if someone knew how to enable that
>> > > > > with sphinx, that would be a great addition to the python docs
>> > > > > - There is missing content in the python tutorials, and the
>> > > > discoverability
>> > > > > could be improved. Some old tutorials have not been migrated just
>> yet.
>> > > > > - The nightly tests on tutorials have been disabled for now
>> > > > > - There is no "Download jupyter notebook" for tutorials just yet.
>> > > > > - Non-python tutorials might benefit from a blurb description and
>> > > > > a
>> > > > better
>> > > > > content organization.
>> > > > > - Python tutorials could be better organized, have a picture
>> > > accompanying
>> > > > > their description
>> > > > > - There is no site-wide search, this is not an easy problem to
>> > > > > solve to
>> > > > be
>> > > > > fair given the static nature of the website, but maybe an external
>> > > plugin
>> > > > > might be able to give a half-way solution
>> > > > > - There is no version selector for the docs
>> > > > > - There is bug in search box of the python docs, but this is just
>> > > > > a
>> > > small
>> > > > > JS bug that can be fixed easily (on my list for next week)
>> > > > > - Most old links have not had a redirect put in place.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > I noticed on the Ubuntu home page in the Developer dropdown that the
>> > > > link MXNet on Ubuntu
>> > > > <https://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/install/index.html
>> > > > >with
>> > > > Nvidia
>> > > > <
>> > > >
>> > >
>> https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/gpu-accelerated-applications/
>> > > mxnet/
>> > > > >
>> > > > doesn't work anymore, it points to:
>> > > > https://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/install/index.html
>> > > >
>> > > > Also, on the MXNet 'getting started' page
>> > > > https://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/get_started , the link "Ubuntu
>> > > > Installation Guide" at the bottom doesn't work either, it points to:
>> > > > https://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/ubuntu_setup.html
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I suggest you do a scan of the new website to find these dangling
>> links.
>> > > >
>> > > > regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Lieven
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > We'll formalize this in github issues next week, but they are all
>> > > fairly
>> > > > > small and helping out on these would be a great way of
>> > > > > familiarizing yourself with the new website build system and
>> website
>> > architecture.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >  Thanks all for the feedback, please keep it coming!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thomas Delteil
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Le sam. 21 sept. 2019 à 09:53, Haibin Lin
>> > > > > <haibin.lin....@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > It looks like my previous email did not go through. Re-sending:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi Aaron,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The website looks cool. Thanks for pushing this to production. A
>> > > > > > few
>> > > > > > questions:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > - I was looking for the API doc for mx.sym.dot, but I find that
>> > > > > > most operators under mx.sym.* are missing. Is this expected?
>> > > > > > - I was also checking the search functionality, searching the
>> > > > > > keyword "ndarray" only returns one result
>> > > > > > "mxnet.ndarray.NDArray", which
>> > > > doesn't
>> > > > > > seem right. There animation keeps going (Searching. ->
>> > > > > > Searching.. -> Searching ...) and gives me an impression that
>> > > > > > the search is never completely done(?).
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Best,
>> > > > > > Haibin
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 4:50 PM Chaitanya Bapat <
>> > > chai.ba...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks Aaron and the team for launching new website!
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > 1. There's no search button anywhere on the landing page.
>> > > > > > > 2. I wasn't able to find FAQ (and without search button I dont
>> > > > > > > have
>> > > > > > option
>> > > > > > > but to go manually on each menu). Only when I go to
>> > > > > > > Docs&Tutorials
>> > > ->
>> > > > > FAQ
>> > > > > > > -> Extend and Cotribute (that I got what I wanted).
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Suggestions
>> > > > > > > Might want to make this searchable and pop FAQ on the main
>> > > > > > > page (or somewhere prominent)
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > > Chai
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 14:58, Przemysław Trędak <
>> > > ptre...@apache.org>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > There seems to be a problem with (at least Python, did not
>> > > > > > > > check
>> > > > > > others)
>> > > > > > > > APIs. For example this page:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > https://mxnet.incubator.apache.org/api/python/docs/api/symbol/_autogen
>> > > /mxnet.symbol.Symbol.argmax.html
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > says that it is a convenience method for argmax (with a
>> > > > > > > > link),
>> > > but
>> > > > > > > > clicking that link just points to the same website (and so
>> > > > > > > > user
>> > > has
>> > > > > no
>> > > > > > > way
>> > > > > > > > of getting to the docs of the actual operator).
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > When I tried to manually remove Symbol from the URL to get
>> > > > > > > > to mxnet.symbol.argmax.html, I got a "Not found" webpage
>> > > > > > > > which I
>> > > guess
>> > > > > > also
>> > > > > > > > should not happen (ignoring the fact that this should exist,
>> > > going
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > > > random URL under the website should redirect to the main
>> > > > > > > > page I
>> > > > > think).
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Przemek
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On 2019/09/20 16:41:28, Lin Yuan <apefor...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > Looks very neat. Thank you Aaron and many others for
>> > > > > > > > > launching
>> > > > > this!
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:31 AM Carin Meier <
>> > > > carinme...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Nice!!! Congrats everyone!
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 10:28 AM Aaron Markham <
>> > > > > > > > aaron.s.mark...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Alrighty! The new site is launched. You might need to
>> > > > > > > > > > > clear
>> > > > > your
>> > > > > > > > cache.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
>> > > > > > > > > > > Aaron
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 3:33 PM Aaron Markham <
>> > > > > > > > aaron.s.mark...@gmail.com
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks everyone. The PRs passed CI, but please
>> > > > > > > > > > > > continue
>> > > > > holding
>> > > > > > > > off on
>> > > > > > > > > > > > docs and CI edits. Unless there are any objections,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > I'd
>> > > > like
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > launch
>> > > > > > > > > > > > the new website today.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 7:46 AM Aaron Markham <
>> > > > > > > > > > aaron.s.mark...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > The last two PRs [1][2] for the new website and
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > docs
>> > > have
>> > > > > > > passed
>> > > > > > > > CI
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > (finally). Please do not make changes to /docs or
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > /ci
>> > > > until
>> > > > > > we
>> > > > > > > > get
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > these approved and merged. Every time there's a
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > merge
>> > > > > > conflict
>> > > > > > > > it has
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > set us back a day or two while shepherding the PRs
>> > > > through
>> > > > > CI
>> > > > > > > > again.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless there are catastrophic issues discovered in
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > a
>> > > > > review,
>> > > > > > I
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > recommend that we hold any patches or updates to
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
>> > > PRs
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > > > follow-up
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > PRs.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > There are four steps to launch:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Once the PRs are approved, the plan is to merge
>> > > 15885
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > > > delete
>> > > > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > old content first.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Then immediately merge 15883 to add in the new
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > CI
>> > > > flows
>> > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > > updates
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > to the content Thomas and I have already had
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > merged in
>> > > > > 15884
>> > > > > > > [3].
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. I will change the website validation Jenkins
>> > > pipeline
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > > > point to
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > the new pipeline.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. I will change the website publishing Jenkins
>> > > pipeline
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > > > point to
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > its new pipeline as well. Once triggered, the old
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > site
>> > > > will
>> > > > > > be
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > replaced with the new one.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Post launch we'll need to update the DNS for
>> > > > beta.mxnet.io
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > point
>> > > > > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > production, and there will likely be some
>> > > > > redirect/.htaccess
>> > > > > > > > updates
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > needed next week to assist with any deep linking
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > and
>> > > 404
>> > > > > > issues
>> > > > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > pop up.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaron
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]
>> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/pull/15885
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > [2]
>> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/pull/15883
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > [3]
>> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-mxnet/pull/15884
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --
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