Right. I would never, ever want to force users to use forceId for working with AJAX.
So, my opinion is on record ;) regards, Martin On 11/24/05, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, if Simon's point is that Ajax should not *require* forceId then > I agree with him (or whoever is making that point.) We're not > requiring it right now but I think that is what Travis is suggesting > (with the reasoning be that you almost always want to use it anyways.) > > As for why you would *ever* want to use it with Ajax, I think Martin > and I were answering that question. The reasoning doesn't change. > > sean > > On 11/23/05, Adam Winer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think Simon's question is not about why "forceId" exists > > in the first place, but why AJAX would *require* its use. > > > > The former was discussed long ago. The latter is a new > > question which deserves careful consideration. > > > > -- Adam > > > > > > On 11/23/05, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Simon, > > > > > > There are a few very long threads on this in the archives (when > > > forceId first came about.) Not only is it awkward to add > > > "form1:subview2" etc to every reference in your javascript but if you > > > change your JSF form structure all of your javascript needs to change > > > too! (NOTE: Its not always practical to have your component generate > > > your javascript.) > > > > > > Again, see the archived discussions for more on the reasoning. It was > > > a pretty lively debate with lots of good points raised on all sides. > > > > > > sean > > > > > > On 11/22/05, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi Travis, > > > > > > > > I don't know anything about the AJAX compoents so please excuse me if > > > > this is a silly question. But why are the AJAX components requiring > > > > "forceId" in the first place? > > > > > > > > If a component's true id at the back end is "form1:subview2:table3", > > > > then why not use that id in all the AJAX stuff rather than requiring the > > > > table to use forceId? > > > > > > > > Travis Reeder wrote: > > > > > Yes, I can use forceId=true when I want it, but my sentiments exactly > > > > > (about altering the id), if I set an ID, it would be nice to not have > > > > > to set forceId="true" also. Especially in this new rich client / > > > > > ajaxing era that we seem to be rolling into. > > > > > > > > > > -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
