Thanks for your answer.

But Tobago don't need any divs or spans in relation to layout.
Please look at the demo at http://tobago.atanion.net/site/ especially the view source button :-)

Maybe we benefit from other features of Facelets.

Best Regards

Bernd Bohmann



[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Facelets is just a ViewHandler, that's it-- just as JSP is. The benefit of Facelets with Tobago is that it would allow aliasing of
Tobago components in simple HTML divs or spans in relation to layout. Truthfully, it's a very big, win-win situation for both projects. This is only one aspect of the Facelets framework. If you have questions, just email the project owner on java.net.

-- Jacob (Facelets Guy)


We didn't have the time to really check out Facelets up to now. We removed the according FAQ entry and will take some time to look closer at Facelets. From the documentation of Facelets we just saw the "Tapestry-like views" aspect and this doesn't seem to make sense for Tobago.

Regards,
Arvid

Adam Winer wrote:


Mike is entirely correct.  There's no reason why any decent
JSF component library shouldn't work with Facelets,
and [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't understand Facelets.
ADF Faces, for example, abstracts away from HTML too;
Facelets makes awesome sense with ADF Faces, just as
it would with Tobago.

The whole "Tapestry-like views" aspect of Facelets is just
one small bit of it;  the major value is providing a much, much
better environment for JSF than JSPs are.

Honestly, anyone who uses Facelets after JSPs will
never want to go back.  I don't quite get why MyFaces hasn't
embraced Facelets fully.

-- Adam Winer

On 12/13/05, Mike Kienenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I think there's some misunderstanding here about facelets.   Facelets
isn't tied to any particular view technology (ie, html).

"Facelets are based on HTML-designed JSP source code" is untrue.
Facelets doesn't use tld files or (jsp)Tag classes.   Facelets works
directly on the component class.

There shouldn't be any reason why you can't use facelets with tobago,
providing you're writing clean components.


On 12/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Author: bommel
Date: Tue Dec 13 09:35:51 2005
New Revision: 356552

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=356552&view=rev
Log:
added faq for facelets

Modified:
  incubator/tobago/trunk/src/site/fml/faq.fml
  incubator/tobago/trunk/tobago-theme/tobago-theme-richmond/pom.xml

Modified: incubator/tobago/trunk/src/site/fml/faq.fml
URL:

http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/incubator/tobago/trunk/src/site/fml/faq.fml?rev=3
56552&r1=356551&r2=356552&view=diff

============================================================================

==

--- incubator/tobago/trunk/src/site/fml/faq.fml (original)
+++ incubator/tobago/trunk/src/site/fml/faq.fml Tue Dec 13 09:35:51 2005
@@ -22,6 +22,16 @@
         components that need a renderer.</p>
      </answer>
   </faq>
+    <faq id="tobago/facelets">
+ <question>It is possible to combine tobago with

facelets?</question>

+      <answer>
+        <p>It doesn't make sense.</p>
+        <p>Facelets are based on HTML-designed JSP source code.</p>
+ <p>Tobago on the other side abstracts from HTML. There are no

HTML-Tags in the JSP source code.

+ There are only abstract tags. The Renderkit converts it to HTML

or any other ML.

+ The idea of Tobago is: The theme controls the look-and-feel of

the page.</p>

+      </answer>
+    </faq>
   <faq id="tiles/sitemesh">
<question>Can tobago replace tiles? Can I ignore tiles and sitemesh

in the favor of tobago or not?

     </question>

Modified:

incubator/tobago/trunk/tobago-theme/tobago-theme-richmond/pom.xml

URL:

http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/incubator/tobago/trunk/tobago-theme/tobago-theme-
richmond/pom.xml?rev=356552&r1=356551&r2=356552&view=diff

============================================================================

==

--- incubator/tobago/trunk/tobago-theme/tobago-theme-richmond/pom.xml

(original)

+++ incubator/tobago/trunk/tobago-theme/tobago-theme-richmond/pom.xml Tue

Dec 13 09:35:51 2005

@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
 </parent>
 <artifactId>tobago-theme-richmond</artifactId>
 <packaging>jar</packaging>
-  <name>Tobago theme richmond</name>
+  <name>Tobago theme Richmond</name>
 <build>
   <plugins>
     <plugin>
@@ -75,7 +75,7 @@
     </exclusions>
   </dependency>
   <dependency>
-       <groupId>javax.servlet</groupId>
+      <groupId>javax.servlet</groupId>
     <artifactId>servlet-api</artifactId>
     <version>2.3</version>
     <scope>provided</scope>









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