That was my understanding as well. It would seem to apply to this project where the integration work to be done is rather daunting and it remains to be seen if those that want to see it happen will put in the work to make it happen.
Sean On 12/29/05, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I clearly haven't understood the concept of the incubator then. > > I really thought the incubator was there to make sure that a community > builds up around a codebase - a healthy community built from corporate > developers, freelancers interested in the project, volunteers, > students and whoever else wants to join in. A good mixture, as I'd > like to put it. Call it a sandbox for Apache projects - I really > thought it was something like this... > > As I understood it, the incubation process was there to make sure that > as soon as there is a healthy community alive and kicking, we can > proudly take in this project; as part of an existing project (or even > as a new TLP). > > regards, > > Martin > > > On 12/29/05, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12/28/05, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Same objections here. > > > > > > How is Oracle going to maintain code when they don't have the ability to > > > commit? > > > > > > Plus, I think the MyFaces PMC was expecting to be able to hold a last > > > final vote at the time when ADF faces gets out of the incubator. We'd > > > need to discuss this on the PMC again if we do things differently. > > > > > > Or, to put it another way, we only voted for ADF faces to be able to > > > get into the incubator, not out of the incubator so far. > > > > When we started the process, the only option was to create a podling > > in the Incubator and then move the podling to a TLP or into an > > existing TLP. Some podlings have moved through the Incubator in weeks > > and others in months, and at least one failed Incubation. > > > > Since then, the IP Clearance protocol was invented. Here, the > > Incubator decides if the code *can* be licensed to the foundation, and > > the receiving TLP, as the domain experts, decide if the code *should* > > be licensed to the foundation. Since there is an existing project, any > > new committers can earn their karma in the usual way. > > > > Personally, I don't like the idea of using the Incubator like a > > sandbox. What's being suggested is that we set the ADF Faces codebase > > up there, give a set of corporate developers Apache accounts, and see > > if they can work collaboratively with us. > > > > I don't believe the Incubator should be used to short-circuit the > > meritocratic process. We do have people with ADF experience who have > > been contributing to the user community for more than six months now. > > If other ADF developers have not bothered to become involved in > > MyFaces, I don't see why we should give them a free pass now. > > > > If the MyFaces community, as it stands today, is not ready to receive > > this donation, then it might be better to setup a SourceForge project > > instead. The MyFaces and ADF developers could collaborate on work > > together at SourceForge, and then decide if it should be part of > > MyFaces or not. > > > > -Ted. > > > > > -- > > http://www.irian.at > > Your JSF powerhouse - > JSF Consulting, Development and > Courses in English and German > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >
