On 8/22/06, Mario Ivankovits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Matthias! > The sort of "offline" development. Sending offline a patch to a > committer for letting him commit the stuff is to me a -1. Looks like a > "bypass". Do you propose to use jira as mini-incubator? I am not sure this is what it is meant for.
na, that's not the idea behind this mail. What I miss in this case is the openess of the discussion. There was no. Maybe sb of us here had been interested. Maybe not! Not a big deal to start a thread and upload new features (or new components) to jira. Lot's of users do that.
In this case it was committed to the sandbox, no? I like the idea to see the "sandbox" as incubator even more, we are still free to remove stuff, so this is not against "open development"
Well, sandbox or not. I missed the discussion. Remember client side validation stuff? That was a good thread. Or the "s:secureTag" thread? These two were much more "open development" than here, I guess. Maybe that's all I missed here. But to me this particular commit *smells*. Sorry, but that's my point. If you compare sandbox w/ incubator you should say, that there (incubator) is also a PMC behind which decides what should go into the incubator or not. Sure, we can remove that afterwards, but that's not needed if the community process is working. Like incubator I am speaking here of the development community.
I think, for this (Google SoC) project, where Ernst worked together closely with Martin it is good enough, and that way it is easier to check the code quality AND if it works. If I had to trash my trunk with its patch I suspect I'd check this code (given the pressure I currently have)
Yes, that's for the Google SoC. It is cool that he worked closely with Martin. I like that. But I don't see the point why using jira is a show stopper. With a patch to jira it's also possible to look at the quality and the component itself. I don't doubt about the quality. I am just worried about the process ;)
For sure, it was not the best way how this code found its way into myfaces, but let it be and we'll ensure for the future that it will go better.
I hope so. I am not planing to remove this. Just giving a heads-up about the totaly wrong way (IMO). -Matthias
