On 2/22/07, Mike Kienenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My initial impression (now that the administrata is out of the way) is
that the subproject sounds useful, now that I see that we aren't
making yet another component library.  I think it's an excellent idea
to get better examples of JSF and JPA working together since these are
now considered standards.

right. I'll check that stuff out and I am thinking about adding it to
my trinidad_spring_shale_jpa demo

I am slightly concerned that we're spreading our focus a bit with this
subproject.   Up to this point, we've provided a JSF implementation
and component libraries.   Providing an application framework on top
of that seems like something that would fit better with what Shale is
doing.    However, I don't think that's a showstopper, just something
to keep in mind.

perhaps this is an area, where we can work with shale together on JSR
299 (web beans)
I need to ping Geir on how we can create a apache wide mailing list
for that JSR, for those committers, signed the NDA

-M


On 2/22/07, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's not an arbitrary and unnecessary split - as:
>
> - it's not a component library, it is about glue-code
> - it works with any component library, not only tomahawk
> - it has dependencies to Spring, and I personally don't think tomahawk
> should have some
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 2/22/07, Mike Kienenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You've answered some of the management issues, but you still haven't
> > addressed what the difference between "tomahawk and/or sandbox" and
> > "fusion" will be.
> >
> > From my understanding so far, this is still just a collection of
> > components, and I don't see why it needs to be separate from the
> > sandbox or tomahawk.   Our stated goal in the past has been to unify
> > the various subprojects (ie, merge tomahawk and trinidad; merge
> > tomahawk and tobago).   This seems contrary to that goal since fusion
> > (an ironic name in this context) is making an arbitrary and
> > unnecessary split of the tomahawk project.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/22/07, Mario Ivankovits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi Mike!
> > > > In the future, please remember that such reviews and conclusions
> > > > *must* be made on the mailing list.
> > > Ok, sorry for this.
> > >
> > > > As to the actual merits of the subproject, I don't understand what
> > > > value it adds to have this in both the sandbox and in "fusion".    How
> > > > do the two subprojects differ?   Is it just a matter of different
> > > > dependencies?
> > > The parts in the sandbox will deleted once the setup of the new project
> > > has settled down.
> > > Afterwards a release of MyFaces Fusion (or whatever name it will have in
> > > the end) should follow soon.
> > >
> > > For the user it is easier to recognize than that there is just another
> > > competitor in this area (JSF, ORM, etc)
> > >
> > >
> > > Ciao,
> > > Mario
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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