Since there where some discussions about what should be in this new project
and what not:
Renderkit independent components yes/no? Only static utils, convenient base
classes?

I have a suggestion that would solve this (and the naming as well):

Let's start a new MLP* called "MyFaces JSF Commons"
which is itself an "umbrella" project for two artifacts** called
"MyFaces JSF Commons Utils" and "MyFaces JSF Commons Components"

For the artifact names I propose:
"myfaces-jsfcommons-utils" and "myfaces-jsfcommons-components"

The myfaces-jsfcommons-components artifact would have a compile dependency
to myfaces-jsfcommons-utils.

WDYT?

--Manfred


* Myfaces Level Project ;-)
** We should not use the Apache Commons terminology and call those artifacts
or sub projects "Components" for obvious reasons  ;-)



On 10/31/07, Matthias Wessendorf < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> True!
>
> ...and also the name "common" is very common... :-)
> And therefore not reserved for Apache Commons ...
>
>
> -M
>
> On 10/31/07, Volker Weber < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > It is  a apache commons like project, just not located in
> commons.apache.org.
> > If it is named myfaces-jsf-commons it should clear enough this is a
> > myfaces project.
> >
> > And imho it should contain tools, components, ... for jsf users like
> > apache-commons-beanutils contains java-collection stuff for java
> > users.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >     Volker
> >
> > 2007/10/30, Ron Smits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Grins, I so do not want to start a 'poco sensitive' discussion. But I
> agree
> > > with several other writers here, that commons sounds too much like the
> > > apache commons project
> > >
> > > Ron
> > >
> > >  On 10/30/07, Manfred Geiler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Oh no! Not that discussion again...  :-(
> > > >
> > > > Ron, you might not be aware of former discussions on this list - not
> > > > your fault of course.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, there are many ASF projects which have names related to Native
> > > > Americans, BUT there are also many people concerned that those names
> > > > could be offensive to Native Americans.
> > > >
> > > > And MyFaces is - of course - not the only ASF project where such
> > > > discussions took place: see [1] to get an idea about such
> discussions
> > > > in the Geronimo community.
> > > > BTW, did you know they once had "Tomahawk" in their list of suggest
> > > > alternatives?  ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Don't get me wrong, my personal opinion is
> > > > +/-0 for names related to Native Americans
> > > >
> > > > Just wanted to sensitize.
> > > >
> > > > --Manfred
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSBOX/why-apache-geronimo.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/30/07, Ron Smits < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > How about Tsalagi? that is the name of the cherokee language
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/30/07, Mario Ivankovits < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > > How about a new "ASF style" name instead of basic, commons or
> > > > > > > something else that could be more easily misconstrued?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Could you give an "ASF style" name for example?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > Mario
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > I reject your reality and substitute my own
> > > > >    --- Adam Savage, the mythbusters
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
>
>
> --
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>
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