Please summarize the intent and proposed contents of each subproject on
a wiki page.  A common refactoring page already exists [1].  The
resulting pages should be moved in each project's site documentation


Paul Spencer

[1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/MyFaces_Commons_Refactoring

Simon Lessard wrote:
I can live with that as well, the name speaks for itself, but it's soooo
loooooong.

~ Simon

On 10/31/07, Ron Smits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I can live with that

Ron

On 10/31/07, Manfred Geiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Since there where some discussions about what should be in this new
project and what not:
Renderkit independent components yes/no? Only static utils, convenient
base classes?

I have a suggestion that would solve this (and the naming as well):

Let's start a new MLP* called "MyFaces JSF Commons"
which is itself an "umbrella" project for two artifacts** called
"MyFaces JSF Commons Utils" and "MyFaces JSF Commons Components"

For the artifact names I propose:
"myfaces-jsfcommons-utils" and "myfaces-jsfcommons-components"

The myfaces-jsfcommons-components artifact would have a compile
dependency to myfaces-jsfcommons-utils.

WDYT?

--Manfred


* Myfaces Level Project ;-)
** We should not use the Apache Commons terminology and call those
artifacts or sub projects "Components" for obvious reasons  ;-)



On 10/31/07, Matthias Wessendorf < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
True!

...and also the name "common" is very common... :-)
And therefore not reserved for Apache Commons ...


-M

On 10/31/07, Volker Weber < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
It is  a apache commons like project, just not located in
commons.apache.org.
If it is named myfaces-jsf-commons it should clear enough this is a
myfaces project.

And imho it should contain tools, components, ... for jsf users like
apache-commons-beanutils contains java-collection stuff for java
users.


Regards,
    Volker

2007/10/30, Ron Smits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Grins, I so do not want to start a 'poco sensitive' discussion.
But I agree
with several other writers here, that commons sounds too much like
the
apache commons project

Ron

 On 10/30/07, Manfred Geiler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Oh no! Not that discussion again...  :-(

Ron, you might not be aware of former discussions on this list -
not
your fault of course.

Yes, there are many ASF projects which have names related to
Native
Americans, BUT there are also many people concerned that those
names
could be offensive to Native Americans.

And MyFaces is - of course - not the only ASF project where such
discussions took place: see [1] to get an idea about such
discussions
in the Geronimo community.
BTW, did you know they once had "Tomahawk" in their list of
suggest
alternatives?  ;-)

Don't get me wrong, my personal opinion is
+/-0 for names related to Native Americans

Just wanted to sensitize.

--Manfred


[1]
http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSBOX/why-apache-geronimo.html


On 10/30/07, Ron Smits < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How about Tsalagi? that is the name of the cherokee language


On 10/30/07, Mario Ivankovits < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi!
How about a new "ASF style" name instead of basic, commons
or
something else that could be more easily misconstrued?

Could you give an "ASF style" name for example?

---
Mario




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