Cool, I was hoping we had one. :) Paul, you mind if I ask you some questions about this?

I can totally understand the want/need for the converters and validators to be ported to 1.1 (and thus need 1.4 support), but what about the utilities? Currently Trinidad, Tomahawk, and Tobago support JDK 1.1 and therefore their adoption of the common utilities would be slow if not non-existant. I know that the logic I'm trying to introduce, although it could be used in JSF 1.1 environments, really becomes most useful when dealing with JSF 1.2 and the portlet bridge. I also wouldn't think that things like unified multi-part form processing would be likely to make it into current 1.1 renderkits since it would require a lot of code to be rewritten and may not be backward compatible.

Scott

Paul Spencer wrote:
+1 on JSF 1.2 only
+1 on 1.1 support with JDK 1.5 required on both.
+1 on 1.1 w/ 1.4
   I have projects I support on HP-UX that are currently running
   JDK 1.4.

Paul Spencer

Andrew Robinson wrote:
I would go for:

+1 on JSF 1.2 only

This is open source, so no one is required to use it and embracing 1.2
is only going to help the development community move forward.

+0.5 on 1.1 support with JDK 1.5 required on both.

Just because the specification supports 1.4 does mean libraries have
to. JDK 1.5 has been out plenty long enough for companies to adopt it.
If they cannot adopt it, they should be willing to forgo new libraries
and functionality

-1 on 1.1 w/ 1.4

This is too much work and will really hold nicer features back (I also
would have no interest in developing and testing it personally).

Just my $.02

-Andrew

On Nov 29, 2007 10:06 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Nov 29, 2007 5:57 PM, Scott O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey everyone,

I'm going to try to put together a proposal for some items it add to the jsf commons fairly soon for your purusal. First off, however, I'd like
some technical information on this project as it may effect how the
project is set up.

1. Which version of JSF will be the minimum for this project? One of my proposals involves needing an ExternalContextWrapper and the version of JSF does make a difference. I, personally, would like to see this based off 1.2 but if we need a 1.1 Faces Commons then I would recommend both a
1.1 and a 1.2 branch.
here we go;
my understanding is, that 1.1 is a must

2. What is the minimum JDK we are going to use for this project.  My
preference would be J2SE 5 for the build. I could even live with making sure that code can be compiled with J2SE 5 in 1.4 compatibility mode but
I think we need to be able to support generics at the very least.  Of
course if we're basing the commons project off of JSF 1.2, J2SE5 is a
no-brainer.  :)
JSF 1.1 => java1.4
JSF 1.2 => JDK5



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