On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Hazem Saleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Jihoon Kim schrieb: >> > Hi! >> > >> > I was hoping if someone can take a look at a recent contribution that >> > I have made to the sandbox and see if it is something that I should >> > spend more of my free time with=> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-1250 >> > >> > I have detailed much about the contribution within the Jira, but in a >> > nutshell it is to give users capability in creating Adobe Flex >> > components as MyFaces JSF components. So users would create the >> > components as normal JSF components and the contribution will create >> > the necessary SWF files and etcetera and link the values of the >> > components back to the managed beans using JSON+Javascript and >> > etcetera. >> > >> > One caveat is that users will need to download the free Adobe Flex SDK >> > to C:\Program Files\flexSDK or /usr/local/bin/flexSDK [haven't tested >> > on linux yet]. >> > >> > I thought it would be an interesting set of components and if it is >> > something that seems to have some potential I will fine tune the code >> > more and give additional capabilities within the components. I have >> > tried to keep to some of the standards within the myfaces project by >> > including tons of .xml files for tld attributes and have attached a >> > patch for set of files and a zip for others [since there exists >> > multiple directories and files within them]. >> > >> >> Thanks very much for offering this code to the myfaces project. >> >> I had a quick look yesterday, and the code seems to be very nicely >> written. I'm sure it will be useful to many people. >> >> Before this becomes part of a MyFaces project, however, there are a few >> questions to answer: >> a) Abobe flex is a proprietary product. Therefore, is a wrapper for it >> suitable as an ASF project? >> b) Does the code comply with the ASF legal rules regarding licensing? >> c) Is there a large enough development community to keep this code >> maintained? >> d) What project should the code be included in? >> >> == (a) >> >> The ASF always uses the Apache License 2.0 (AL2.0). This is meant to be >> a "business friendly" license, in that code under this license can be >> included in proprietory products. However in general the ASF does try to >> promote open source over proprietory products. >> >> As far as I know, Flex is completely proprietory to Adobe, and this >> wrapper code has no other purpose than allowing this proprietory code to >> be used. Therefore I'm not sure that it is in the spirit of ASF to host >> it here. >> >> == (b) >> >> The ASF has a strict rule that no code hosted in the apache svn >> repository can contain >> import some.gpl.api >> >> I'm reasonably sure that the same rule bans "import" of packages whose >> license is not compatible with AL2.0. >> >> I can't see any such calls in the provided code; it seems that the code >> just outputs HTML statements that happen to reference Flex plugins >> (which would probably be ok). Can you confirm that nowhere in the java >> code are any "import" statements of adobe java libs? >> >> == (c) >> >> The ASF differs from sourceforge, etc., in that it is serious about >> long-term maintenance of the projects it hosts. This means ensuring that >> there before any code becomes an official ASF project it has a group of >> people willing to maintain it. Are there other people who are willing to >> keep this code valid, and respond to bugreports etc? >> >> == (d) >> >> The patch is written so that the code is part of the Tomahawk project. >> However I don't think this would be the best place for it. The people >> who use tomahawk will not usually want this code, and the people who >> want this code will often not want the rest of tomahawk. >> >> And in addition, I personally would like to see tomahawk put into >> "maintenance only" mode, with the best bits being moved instead into the >> new "myfaces commons" modules. >> >> >> == >> >> Please don't take this as a rejection; this is just my initial thoughts. >> Hopefully other people will comment as well. As most of the developers >> on this list are very busy it may take a week or so for people to get >> around to evaluating such a large chunk of code. >> >> Note that even if the consensus is that this code is not appropriate for >> MyFaces or Apache, it still looks very useful and we would all wish you >> success with the project no matter where it gets hosted. >> >> Regards, >> Simon >> >> > I think we haven't any problems with the Adobe Flex licence, it is (MPL) > :<http://people.apache.org/%7Erubys/3party.html#define-reciprocal> > http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flex:Open_Source#License > http://people.apache.org/~rubys/3party.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Erubys/3party.html#define-reciprocal> > > -- > Hazem Ahmed Saleh Ahmed > http://www.jroller.com/page/HazemBlog I totally support Ji Hoon idea, and I think we can improve alot in the future. -- Hazem Ahmed Saleh Ahmed http://www.jroller.com/page/HazemBlog
