hello matthias, as mentioned: maybe it's a good starting point for further suggestions.
it isn't easy to find a name which is perfect to everyone (in every language, dialect, slang,...). regards, gerhard 2008/5/11 Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'd prefer a Spanish word... > To me checker sounds stupid. > (krasser checker...) > > -M > > Sent from my iPod. > > Am 11.05.2008 um 01:55 schrieb "Gerhard Petracek" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > @andrew: > it depends on the mother tongue. ;) > for some of you 'seven' sounds boring - especially if english is your > mother tongue. > words of foreign languages sound much more interesting. > if i translate 'seven' into my mother tongue, it also sounds a bit boring > (just because it isn't exotic for me). > in my country it's a kind of "trend" to use english words. > > so maybe we should just use an "invented" name or an acronym. > e.g.: > jac (*j*ava *a*nnotation *c*hecker) > jack (*j*ava *a*nnotation *c*hec*k*er) > > if you translate e.g. 'jack' into my mother tongue, there are a lot of > different meanings. > so there is no real meaning - it just sounds interesting (it's a matter of > taste). > > regards, > gerhard > > > > 2008/5/10 Leonardo Uribe < <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Some spanish words: > > > > myfaces-commons-validacion > > myfaces-commons-validar > > myfaces-commons-validador > > myfaces-commons-valide > > myfaces-commons-evaluador > > > > > > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Hazem Saleh < <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > +1 for myfaces-commons-checker. > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Gerhard Petracek <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > do you have a further suggestion? > > > > maybe a bit more fancy? > > > > > > > > e.g. one of the suggestions i heard is: > > > > myfaces-commons-checker > > > > > > > > maybe it's a new starting point for further suggestions. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > gerhard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/4/29 Scott O'Bryan < <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > How about "convalidi". It's validate in Italian (I think). > > > > > > > > > > Gerhard Petracek wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > hello scott, > > > > > > > > > > > > do you have a suggestion for a short and fancy name? > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > gerhard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/4/27 Scott O'Bryan < <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 to not naming it validations. There is already a commons > > > > > > validator. > > > > > > > > > > > > -0 to including core in the name > > > > > > > > > > > > Strong -1 to including JSR in the project name. A jar is > > > > > > nearly > > > > > > an enhancement number for java. You wouln't name your > > > > > > project > > > > > > something like MyFaces-1234 after a Jira ticket number. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 2008, at 10:25 AM, "Gerhard Petracek" > > > > > > < <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > hello alexander, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i got your idea. > > > > > > > however, i hope we will find a short and fancy name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if we don't have 'core' within the name, i think we have to > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > something else than just 'validation'. > > > > > > > otherwise it will be a bit confusing for users due to the > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > that the core itself doesn't validate. > > > > > > > concrete validation logic is located within the > > > > > > > independent/optional modules. > > > > > > > the target is to have a core which provides the > > > > > > > infrastructure > > > > > > > and which encapsulates the specifics of the jsf version. > > > > > > > furthermore, the core is independent of specific > > > > > > > annotations. the > > > > > > > optional modules provide the concrete annotations and/or > > > > > > > validation logic (independent of the jsf version). > > > > > > > (reason for and/or: we don't provide the annotations of jpa > > > > > > > nor > > > > > > > of jsr 303 - we just provide the validation strategies for > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > external annotations.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @myfaces-commons-validation-annotations: > > > > > > > it isn't a pure annotation module - it also provides the > > > > > > > validation strategies and much more. > > > > > > > (in the case of the jpa validation support it just provides > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > validation strategy.) > > > > > > > moreover, i would suggest that we rename seven-validation > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > seven-ext-validation or a bit shorter: seven-extval (for > > > > > > > extended > > > > > > > validation) > > > > > > > or something similar which indicates that these are our > > > > > > > annotations (and so on). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @myfaces-commons-validation-jsr303: > > > > > > > i'm fine with both jsr303 (my original suggestion) or > > > > > > > bean-validation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the names of our compromise so far: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > myfaces-commons-[new name] > > > > > > > (= the core) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > myfaces-commons-[new name]-validation > > > > > > > (= our annotations + validation strategies incl. > > > > > > > cross-component > > > > > > > validation infrastructure and also the jpa validation > > > > > > > strategy,...) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > myfaces-commons-[new name]-bean-validation > > > > > > > (= the infrastructure and validation strategies to support > > > > > > > jsr 303) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fancy suggestions for [new name] are welcome. > > > > > > > (we need some suggestions to open a vote.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or what's about something different > > > > > > > it isn't my favourite - however, it might be an impulse for > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > suggestions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > e.g.: > > > > > > > myfaces-commons-validation-core > > > > > > > myfaces-commons-validation-extval > > > > > > > myfaces-commons-validation-jsr303 (or bean-validation) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i prefer an independent name.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > gerhard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/4/25 Jesse Alexander (KSFH 336) > > > > > > > < <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > <mailto: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are getting side-tracked... > > > > > > > let's find a name within this thread! :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > validation ? 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