> I like something like "Apache NetBeans: PHP Edition", or something of the 
> like.

I agree with this. I prefer to use the same name(i.e. not xxBeans but
NetBeans).

Plus we should run unit tests(especially php.editor) if possible. I
didn't notice for a long time that unit tests fail after GraalJS
parser was removed...

Thanks,
Junichi

On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 11:11 PM Josh Juneau <juneau...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I agree that a separate "lite" distribution would be useful for those who do 
> not wish to deal with Java.  I also agree with Wade that such a release 
> should provide the option to automatically download and install a JRE 
> distribution if one wishes to do so.
>
> Around naming, it seems to make sense to continue to build off the Apache 
> NetBeans brand, but perhaps create new "editions".  I like something like 
> "Apache NetBeans: PHP Edition", or something of the like.
>
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau
>
> > On Apr 20, 2019, at 7:03 AM, Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> > I would keep Apache NetBeans in the name,  Apache PhpBeans looks like a TLP 
> > of Apache not something from Apache NetBeans.
> > And its misleading to existing Apache TPL like OpenWebBeans,XMLBeans.
> >
> > But making several branding sounds a good idea.
> >
> > Jenkins release build should be make more complex but this will not change 
> > the vote and release except more file to sign and to review. It will be in 
> > the convenience libraries part of the voting thread.
> > For Apache Netbeans 12.0 we would have Apache NetBeans 12.0 "PhpBeans"  at 
> > the same time.
> >
> > The above link all the branding to official Apache NetBeans release to 
> > limit effort.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Eric
> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org>
> > Envoyé : samedi 20 avril 2019 13:08
> > À : dev@netbeans.apache.org
> > Objet : Re: [DISCUSS] Frontend distro of NetBeans
> >
> >> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019, 21:57 Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I think one of the coolest things we could do together is spin out a
> >> separate distro specifically for PHP/JS type developers.
> >>
> >> We had that before, it only requires JRE, not JDK, and would mean the
> >> potential for a small snappy editor-focused tool (that as a side
> >> effect could be interesting for users of a few comparable editors we
> >> can all think of).
> >>
> >> And that would bring in new contributions too since we’d be targeting
> >> a different type of developer.
> >>
> >> What would need for this to be done and where? Probably something
> >> would need to be tweaked on Jenkins?
> >>
> >
> > This seems like a release build step.
> >
> > One thing though, would we want to do any special branding like a different 
> > splash screen, icon, and name? Something like "WebBeans" (sounds like
> > webbings) or could do some other things like "PhpBeans"/"PhBean"/"PhBeans"
> > and "PyBeans"/"BeanPy"/"BeansPy" and "CBeans"/"SeaBeans"/"Beans++" or 
> > "CyBeans" for C, C++, and Python or given all the Machine Learning bits at 
> > Apache "MLBeans" with C, C++, Python, Java, and Groovy with some new 
> > wizards for Spark and TensorFlow related items. Later with some of the new 
> > mobile and native techs we could even have "MoBeans" (please).
> >
> > It would be handy if the installer offered to download and install a JDK 
> > for the user as well from some where like AdoptOpenJDK. Those devs often 
> > don't know about Java tools. And if we setup a JDK, and if they ever 
> > install any Java, Groovy, or Gradle tools, then they'd be ready to work 
> > with them.
> >
> > I like the base idea plus all the play I think we can do like mentioned 
> > above. I think for me personally I would rather focus on hardening, adding 
> > features, and making more robust first, and then circle back, but laying 
> > some foundation for it at the same time I think would be great; 
> > names/branding/config steps etc/requirements from which to build features 
> > or harden.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Wade
> >
> >
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