Silly question these seem like from 10.0 timeframe and/or did any of these 
changes make into current branch?

What changes/defects were these associated?

Eric Bresie
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> On November 2, 2019 at 5:52:29 AM CDT, Emilian Bold <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Could you point me to some document with the conclusion (FAQ, or whatever)?
>
> > How is Debian NetBeans modified?
>
> https://sources.debian.org/src/netbeans/10.0-3/debian/patches/ for starters.
>
> --emi
>
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 12:40 PM Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, it did. And that was and is the outcome.
> >
> > How is Debian NetBeans modified?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 11:37 AM Emilian Bold <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > The discussion never had an outcome. That is why I'm asking. Debian
> > > NetBeans is *modified*.
> > >
> > > --emi
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 12:31 PM Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If NetBeans is unmodified it is NetBeans, regardless of what you want to
> > > > combine it with. It's been discussed and this is the outcome.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 11:04 AM Emilian Bold <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Any particular reason?
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I saw the new release, then the snapcraft release which reminded
> > > > > me of the other NetBeans 'forks' under, for example, Debian which
> > > > > still call themselves NetBeans although they are not released by
> > > > > Apache. So I remembered we had a talk long ago about this.
> > > > >
> > > > > From a pure precedent view, if Debian is able to call their package
> > > > > NetBeans and (heavily) patch the codebase to fit their needs, others
> > > > > should be able to do the same. (Not to mention how distros patch or
> > > > > add/remove modules to Apache HTTPD, etc).
> > > > >
> > > > > In particular, if I just take NetBeans and slap AdoptOpenJDK to it,
> > > > > then I don't see under what interpretation Apache Legal or the
> > > > > NetBeans PMC should send a cease and desist. But this is just an
> > > > > example: a FAQ should perhaps clarify this.
> > > > >
> > > > > --emi
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 10:46 AM Neil C Smith <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 2 Nov 2019, 06:12 Emilian Bold, <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm curious what the PMC stance on the NetBeans brand and
> > > trademark is
> > > > > > > these days.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any particular reason?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I personally remain of the view that convenience binaries made by
> > > anyone
> > > > > > from our (unmodified) source releases should be allowed under
> > > nominative
> > > > > > fair use. That seems in line with the ASF FAQ linked earlier. Not
> > > sure
> > > > > > we've progressed any further on the issue though?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neil
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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