Sine the Debian rules are far to restrictive (insanely stupid IMO)... Why not make a NetBeans install script that is distributed as a Debian package? All it would do is download the NetBeans package from an Apache mirror and install it. Somebody did something similar for Oracle JDK.
Scott > On Nov 2, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well, it seems everyone has its own policies to obey to. > > Regarding that, it would be nice that the netbeans package would be removed > from Debian. > > The maintenance burden is probably too high especially compared to the > alternative ways (installes, flatpack, snap). Having it in the repo is just > another source of confusion. > > On 11/2/19 9:42 AM, Markus Koschany wrote: >> Hello Geertjan, >> >> Am 02.11.19 um 11:59 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga: >>> Hi Markus, >>> >>> Great work, you appear to be making releases of NetBeans available on >>> Debian, with patches: >>> >>> https://sources.debian.org/src/netbeans/10.0-3/debian/patches/ >>> >>> How are you doing this, are you keeping track of the latest releases -- >>> we have just released 11.2. >>> >>> Here are the distros that appear to be on Debian: >>> >>> https://sources.debian.org/src/netbeans/ >>> >>> Also, what's the reason for the patches, is the end result still clearly >>> NetBeans with all its features -- what has been modified and can it be >>> truly called "NetBeans" still? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gj >> Netbeans is currently only available in Debian unstable and oldstable. >> The oldstable version is based on Netbeans 8.1 and works fine with Java >> 8. We always have only supported the base version of Netbeans because it >> is nearly impossible to maintain all features of Netbeans for Debian. >> >> The version in unstable is based on Netbeans 10.0 and is not part of >> Debian stable because even the base version has some serious flaws that >> makes it unsuitable for a stable release. [1] Thanks to the help of >> Jaroslav Tulach and Jan Lahoda I could make some progress and I believe >> Ubuntu has a patch to fix the most serious problem but still packaging >> new releases of Netbeans requires too much time which I would like to >> spend on other Debian packages instead. >> >> There are mainly two reasons for the patches, the build system and >> Debian's requirement to build packages only with system libraries. >> >> In Debian all build-dependencies must be available as separate packages >> which are all built from source and comply with the Debian Free Software >> Guidelines. That means in order to build Netbeans we can't rely on your >> build system which downloads hundreds of prebuilt binaries from the >> internet. For instance in order to package Netbeans for Debian we also >> have to package javaewah, jaxb, jgit, svnkit, Ant, Maven, etc. >> >> The second requirement is that we have only one version of a certain >> Java library because of security support. We don't provide multiple >> different versions of an Apache Commons library for example which helps >> us to fix security vulnerabilities quickly because we only have to patch >> one package instead of dozens. So whenever another project which is also >> packaged in Debian requires a newer/older release of a certain library >> but Netbeans still build-depends on an older/newer version of the same >> library build failures or runtime errors may occur and this requires a >> patch. >> >> The most likely scenario for the future is that Netbeans will be removed >> from Debian unless more people start to contribute. We will still keep >> the Netbeans Platform package because it is easier to maintain and also >> needed to build VisualVM for example. >> >> Regards, >> >> Markus >> >> >> [1] https://bugs.debian.org/925509 >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
