Hi! 

I really don't care about LTS for an IDE. As a developer, I'm always looking 
for improvements and new technologies support. Of course, if someone wants to 
mantain an LTS its up to them, but I think the main NB community should put all 
its efforts on improving and releasing new features. 

As Laszlo said, monthly small releases (if possible) would be great. It's 
exciting when a project publishes a release, and from my point of view it would 
also be healthy for the NB community to have frequent updates. 

As always, thanks a lot for the great great work everyone.


On 2020/07/08 22:10:20, Laszlo Kishalmi <[email protected]> wrote: 
> Dear Community,
> 
> It seems we need a stronger definition of LTS, that was one of the 
> things that came up at the 12.0 release retrospective.
> 
> Our current policy is to have one LTS per year. we only support the 
> latest LTS, Support means providing patches for critical issues.
> 
> What ideas/requirements faced up so far:
> 
>   * LTS should last long. At least for three years like Ubuntu. It seems
>     to me that there is a fear of upgrading. Ideally my colleagues would
>     like to get just bugfixes without essential upgrade (Jaroslav
>     Tulach, Oracle)
>   * We shall think of not making LTS versions, let those be the pain of
>     external distributors (Neil C Smith)
>   * LTS support shall be overlapping we shall not end the support of one
>     LTS right after the next one came out.
>   * There shall be a quarterly update release, preferably about one
>     month after the last .x release, if we can do that (that's from me)
>   * Maybe something else, I've missed, please add that here...
> 
> My thoughts:
> 
> What I think is we shall let the hands of 11.0 LTS go, as we have not 
> promised that it would get supported after 12.0 is out. That was built 
> with the old release process. The new pipeline (thanks to Eric) is more 
> suitable for releasing updates. My experience with the upcoming 12.0-u1 
> is pretty good so far.
> I think we need to announce the end of life of 11.0 LTS as well.
> 
> So I think we can support an LTS for 1.5-2 years with quarterly (maybe 
> less frequent) updates, starting form 12.0 beyond that it is probably 
> shall be sponsored/maintained by external distributors. (Sponsored here 
> would mean, that a PMC member from that distributor shall step up and 
> take care of the PR organization and the release process, the community 
> still have to vote for it, and the resulting nbm-s are served by the 
> Apache UC. Maintenance would mean that the whole process could happen 
> outside of a fork of the release branch, we won't need to create a 
> release and, no votes are required, but the resulting nbm-s would be 
> distributed on the third party distributor specific UC.)
> 
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> --
> 
>    Laszlo Kishalmi
> 
> 

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