I thought the other part of LTS was to put it through the NETCAT process with 
more rigorous testing on a milestone release to ensure the quality of the 
release for potential use in a more controlled / managed environment. With the 
NETCAT process being a little more time consuming, this being one of the main 
reasons it’s not good for each release.

Eric Bresie
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> On January 2, 2021 at 4:40:14 PM CST, Laszlo Kishalmi 
> <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Let me resurrect this thread as we are nearing to 13.0 and the
> relationship between 12.3 and 13.0 is still aged
> Do we actually need a 13.0 as an LTS especially when Java 17 will be an
> LTS in September.
>
> To be honest, I do not know how to imagine these relationships.
>
>
> @Neil: I think LTS is more than just providing critical fixes. In my
> view it is improving usability/stability by conservative patching.
>
>
> On 7/10/20 9:27 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:
> > On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 19:31, Matthias Bläsing <[email protected] 
> > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> > > I don't know where the LTS requirement comes from,
> > Yes, agreed. I mean, I know how it got in the release schedule! ;-)
> > But I wrote it in there based on it coming up in different contexts in
> > the preceding discussions, but with various views on the requirements.
> > It does also make sense of the fact that we can't feasibly do four
> > NetCATs in a year, but then maybe the future of that can't be
> > disentangled from this.
> >
> > I think Laszlo's email is a good start to narrowing down what we mean
> > and how. Although I'm not convinced an LTS for more than a year makes
> > much sense with the speed of language updates.
> >
> > > but my take on this:
> > > I think the JDK way looks reasonable. We focus on master, if people
> > > want an LTS version, they can step up inside the project and work on
> > > the LTS version.
> > ...
> > > I don't see why a release of an LTS version should happen outside the
> > > project.
> > I get the feeling, given what I said, and what Laszlo said in his
> > email, that we're pretty much saying the same thing here. I was
> > basically making the same point, that those who need an LTS (inc.
> > downstream distributors) make it happen, together, here. The rest of
> > us, the project as a whole, just concentrates on quarterly releases.
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 23:10, Laszlo Kishalmi <[email protected] 
> > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> > > * There shall be a quarterly update release, preferably about one
> > > month after the last .x release, if we can do that (that's from me)
> > I still don't understand this point. If an LTS is feature stable but
> > just getting critical fixes as originally discussed, then those should
> > be backported and pushed out as soon as feasible after merge to master
> > and some testing? Or are you proposing an LTS getting more updates
> > than that?
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Neil
> >
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