If there is something more I can do please let me know...  I've tried to
get any relevant logs (I can't find anything interesting).
This basic feature not working is driving me mad.  Can we perhaps just get
a flag to disable any old workarounds and just always use the system
clipboard?

Scott

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 3:47 PM Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So I've set this in my netbeans.conf file, but I don't notice anything
> that stands out in the logging.  Which file would it be in messages.log or
> uigestures?
> There is nothing relevant in messages.log and uigestures just shows that a
> paste was attempted - even though the wrong content was pasted (last thing
> copied from within Netbeans rather than what is on the system clipboard).
>
> This is the record form uigestures:
>
> <record>
>   <date>2021-04-29T11:30:43</date>
>   <millis>1619710243434</millis>
>   <sequence>1644</sequence>
>   <logger>org.netbeans.ui.actions.editor</logger>
>   <level>500</level>
>   <thread>26</thread>
>   <message>UI_ACTION_EDITOR</message>
>   <key>UI_ACTION_EDITOR</key>
>   <catalog>&lt;null&gt;</catalog>
>
> <param>java.awt.event.ActionEvent[ACTION_PERFORMED,cmd=Ctrl+V,when=1619710243434,modifiers=Ctrl]
> on
> org.openide.text.QuietEditorPane[,0,0,1300x11788,layout=javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTextUI$UpdateHandler,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.0,border=com.formdev.flatlaf.ui.FlatMarginBorder@74a6a46d
> ,flags=296,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=,caretColor=java.awt.Color[r=187,g=187,b=187],disabledTextColor=javax.swing.plaf.ColorUIResource[r=136,g=136,b=136],editable=true,margin=java.awt.Insets[top=0,left=0,bottom=0,right=0],selectedTextColor=javax.swing.plaf.ColorUIResource[r=187,g=187,b=187],selectionColor=javax.swing.plaf.ColorUIResource[r=75,g=110,b=175],kit=org.netbeans.modules.editor.java.JavaKit@3c33afe2
> ,typeHandlers=]</param>
>
> <param>java.awt.event.ActionEvent[ACTION_PERFORMED,cmd=Ctrl+V,when=1619710243434,modifiers=Ctrl]
> on
> org.openide.text.QuietEditorPane[,0,0,1300x11788,layout=javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTextUI$UpdateHandler,alignmentX=0.0,alignmentY=0.0,border=com.formdev.flatlaf.ui.FlatMarginBorder@74a6a46d
> ,flags=296,maximumSize=,minimumSize=,preferredSize=,caretColor=java.awt.Color[r=187,g=187,b=187],disabledTextColor=javax.swing.plaf.ColorUIResource[r=136,g=136,b=136],editable=true,margin=java.awt.Insets[top=0,left=0,bottom=0,right=0],selectedTextColor=javax.swing.plaf.ColorUIResource[r=187,g=187,b=187],selectionColor=javax.swing.plaf.ColorUIResource[r=75,g=110,b=175],kit=org.netbeans.modules.editor.java.JavaKit@3c33afe2
> ,typeHandlers=]</param>
>
> <param>org.netbeans.editor.BaseKit$PasteAction[paste-from-clipboard]</param>
>   <param>org.netbeans.editor.BaseKit$PasteAction@70200aee</param>
>   <param>paste-from-clipboard</param>
> </record>
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 4:20 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> As stated there: “ Please run with logging enabled
>> (-J-Dorg.netbeans.core.NbClipboard=-1) and attach the
>>
>> part of log that records what happened during the broken situation.”
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 22:12, Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The discussion on this old bug seems to be most relevant:
>> >
>> >  https://bz.apache.org/netbeans//show_bug.cgi?id=41098
>> >
>> > Over 16 years ago this was apparently a JDK issue. (People were using
>> JDK
>> > 1.4 at the time.)
>> > See  Comment 21 <
>> https://bz.apache.org/netbeans//show_bug.cgi?id=41098#c21
>> > >
>> >
>> > I suspect the workaround (which never really worked properly) isn’t
>> > required anymore.
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Apr 8, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Both directions to/from a NetBeans editor to/from something outside.
>> > Not consistent, but frequent enough - multiple times a week.
>> > >
>> > > It seems when this occurs it is like the NetBeans editor has a private
>> > clipboard.  Pasting outside NetBEans pastes the last thing copied
>> outside
>> > of NetBeans.  Pasting within a NetBeans editor pastes the last thing
>> copied
>> > from a NetBeans editor.
>> > >
>> > > Very frustrating when you are trying to copy to an email or a remote
>> > desktop session, or between stack overflow etc...
>> > >
>> > > Scott
>> > >
>> > >> On Apr 8, 2021, at 3:59 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
>> > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID <mailto:
>> > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> It’s 100% about copying text from any NetBeans editor to somewhere
>> > outside
>> > >> NetBeans? Or also the reverse? Consistently or sporadically?
>> > >>
>> > >> Gj
>> > >>
>> > >> On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 21:57, Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:
>> > swpal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Windows 10
>> > >>> JDK 8 through 16
>> > >>>
>> > >>> See prior discussion here:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> >
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/202102.mbox/%3c21fb7d82-e02c-4a4f-8bd7-605615cc5...@gmail.com%3e
>> > <
>> >
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/202102.mbox/%3c21fb7d82-e02c-4a4f-8bd7-605615cc5...@gmail.com%3e
>> > >
>> > >>>
>> > >>> It seems many of us are just used to Copy and Paste not working
>> > properly
>> > >>> and we have various strategies to work around it.  It shouldn’t be
>> > that way.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Scott
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> On Apr 7, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
>> > >>> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Operating system, JDK version, please...
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Gj
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 7:13 PM Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com
>> > <mailto:swpal...@gmail.com> <mailto:
>> > >>> swpal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> I know it probably is the same as before, but today it seems
>> worse in
>> > >>> 12.4
>> > >>>>> beta 2 than it was in 12.3.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Cut and paste is such basic functionality that when it doesn’t
>> work
>> > it
>> > >>> is
>> > >>>>> a major source of frustration.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Today I have been fighting cut and paste not working with NetBeans
>> > 12.4
>> > >>>>> beta 2 for a few hours.  Jumping through hoops to cut some text
>> out
>> > of a
>> > >>>>> NetBeans editor and paste it into something else is not how I
>> wanted
>> > to
>> > >>>>> spend my morning.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> This was discussed briefly in early February (see thread “System
>> > >>> Clipboard
>> > >>>>> Issues”)
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> It is has been reported here
>> > >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2159 <
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2159> <
>> > >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2159 <
>> > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2159>>
>> > >>>>> Though that description is perhaps incomplete.  Both copying from
>> > >>> NetBeans
>> > >>>>> and pasting to NetBeans are affected.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> If you are doing cut and paste entirely within NetBeans you may
>> not
>> > see
>> > >>>>> the issue. It is only when you want to cut and paste between
>> NetBeans
>> > >>> and
>> > >>>>> an external program that it fails.  And it fails very frequently
>> in
>> > that
>> > >>>>> case.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> The sense I got was that NetBeans was trying to work around a bug
>> in
>> > the
>> > >>>>> JRE by using it’s own private clipboard.  I suspect the original
>> JRE
>> > >>> issue
>> > >>>>> is long gone and NetBeans is just creating more problems with an
>> > awkward
>> > >>>>> workaround for a problem that isn’t there.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Scott
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>

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